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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/15/14 04:48 PM
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OFBHWG
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Look at Xpress boats. I have a 2002 21ft bay with 2C 200hp Yanaha and it will scoot 60mph. I can bass fish, crappie fish, troll, drift what ever. I still love it.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/15/14 08:46 PM
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jwallen
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my 2004 G3 tunnel hull 1860 with 90hp yamaha 4 stroke runs 38.5 with all our gear and loaded. It's plenty fast and I really have liked the motor.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/16/14 12:09 AM
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armyfishing
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/16/14 02:24 AM
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Glockfather
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Okay school is now in session. 2014 RT188 with a 115 ETEC, best run GPS verified has been 47.2 and thats with an aluminum prop , myself and 1/2 tank of gas and 3 batteries. The ETEC is quieter than a F115 Yamaha, side by side comparison at the lake, and has the lowest emissions of ANY outboard on the market HP to HP. Oil is direct injected so just like Opti's you just add to a tank, just add gas to the gas tank that simple. Direct fuel injection injects the fuel and oil(it's own infection) after the piston has closed the intake reed so more oil being pushed out the exhaust, its burned during combustion. Modern 2 strokes also have a lot less fewer parts and are way cheaper when it comes to repairs. The torque of the Etec's or Opti's is way better than a 4 stroke, in the class you are looking at, with top ends being very comparable. Does all this make my ETEC or an Opti superior, not really, but it gives you options, especially when you realize the truths of present day 2 strokes. If I was to go 4 stroke I would go Yamaha or Suzuki both rock solid, though Suzuki's dealer network isn't close to Yamaha's. Honda introduced the first 4 stroke,the GB30, in 1964 btw, also a decent choice. For me as long as uncle sam allows 2 strokes thats where I'll be.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/18/14 08:38 PM
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armyfishing
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: fitter2259]
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05/19/14 01:12 PM
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Big C
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Two strokes have been the mainstay in the outboard industry for almost 100 years and from a performance standpoint they still are. In the same way automotive racing passes down its R&D to the designs the manufacturers use in production models, the same is true for the outboard industry and nothing as of this date will change that fact since the modern 4 stroke was introduced in 2002 or so (with the exception of Honda 1997).
While there are some who will swear by the 4's there are in fact still being tweeked upon trying to overcome the issues they have had since there introduction. Who do you know that spends thousands of dollars on a piece of equipment that wont defend their decision to the very end.......not many. When your main selling point is "Just buy the extended warrantee and don't worry about it for 5 years" you know your starting out on the wrong foot. If you want the real low down on something don't ask the buyer ask the certified mechanics who have to work on them day in and day out, and I don't mean the ones who are affiliated with a dealership or particular manufacturer either. Pick a certified independent who doesn't have a dog in the fight and no manufacturers reputation to defend, then and only then will you get your answer.
If I were forced to get a 4 stroke it would be a Honda. They have much more time in the development of the 4 stroke technology and in MHO have a much better grip on the design than any other current offering. Until then I will stick with the one who brought me to the dance over 40 years ago and what is still dominating the waters regardless of what is marketed on the inter-webs and on TV. +1. I think that pretty much nailed it.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/19/14 06:34 PM
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KingwoodCat
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I decided either triton or ranger aluminum 18.8 ft.
Now to the engine....
115 - 2 stroke or 4 stroke? 4 stroke for sure.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/19/14 10:02 PM
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karpbuster
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I have a 16.5' Alum Lund Pro Angler with a 60hp 4 stroke the boat is rated for a 75hp, but Mercury didn't have a 4 stroke 75hp at the time I bought the boat. Mine is a tiller with a steering wheel I think 110hp is the right size, so I would get the highest rated HP for the boat, an 18' Ranger is a heavy boat don't under power it. But my Mercury 4 stroke is a really great motor, now the 2 stroke Mercury Opti is a really great motor especially if it is a big motor. The 4 strokes were heavier than the 2 strokes. I know an 18' Alum Lund Pro V would take a 175hp Merc Opti and run like a charm, my buddy had one. Looked it up uo to 200hp for the Pro V Lund Pro v
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: karpbuster]
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05/19/14 11:40 PM
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I know an 18' Alum Lund Pro V would take a 175hp Merc Opti and run like a charm, my buddy had one. Looked it up uo to 200hp for the Pro V Lund Pro v Good lord. Either my boat is severely underpowered, or Lund thinks its boats have to run like a nun with her hair on fire!! My boat is an 18.5' fiberglass center console, rated for a maximum of 150hp. The 115 Optimax pushes a top speed of about 40mph. Cannot imagine the speed that aluminum Lund would do with the max rated motor of 200hp on it!!
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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05/19/14 11:54 PM
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fly_on_a_xpress
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I know an 18' Alum Lund Pro V would take a 175hp Merc Opti and run like a charm, my buddy had one. Looked it up uo to 200hp for the Pro V Lund Pro v Good lord. Either my boat is severely underpowered, or Lund thinks its boats have to run like a nun with her hair on fire!! My boat is an 18.5' fiberglass center console, rated for a maximum of 150hp. The 115 Optimax pushes a top speed of about 40mph. Cannot imagine the speed that aluminum Lund would do with the max rated motor of 200hp on it!! Lund not the only one xpress x19 (18'10) rated for a 200 also.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/20/14 12:09 AM
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Joe Slab
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I bought a 18ft Express all weld aluminum side console with a 70 hp 4stroke Yamaha. It's a great boat. Looking back I should have got a center console. It's a little rough tiding in big chop and tends to get blown around in the wind. I chase stripers, whites, hybrids, crappie and catfish. There are days I wish I had a bigger boat. Over all I'm pretty happy with it. I just have to be more careful on big water with windy conditions.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: Uncle Zeek]
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05/20/14 07:18 PM
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karpbuster
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I know an 18' Alum Lund Pro V would take a 175hp Merc Opti and run like a charm, my buddy had one. Looked it up uo to 200hp for the Pro V Lund Pro v Good lord. Either my boat is severely underpowered, or Lund thinks its boats have to run like a nun with her hair on fire!! My boat is an 18.5' fiberglass center console, rated for a maximum of 150hp. The 115 Optimax pushes a top speed of about 40mph. Cannot imagine the speed that aluminum Lund would do with the max rated motor of 200hp on it!! As I recall it was a quick boat it was a 2002 Lund Pro V 18 with the Merc 175hp. But these boats are pretty heavy, well made, but heavy. Mine is a 2003 Lund Pro Angler 16, rated for 75hp tiller. This is similar to mine:
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: Glockfather]
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05/22/14 01:57 PM
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Cowboychemist
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+1 for the ETEC. I've been running a 200 hp ETEC and love it. It's quiet, uses little oil, starts right up every time.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/23/14 05:50 PM
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Paul Rogers
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We carry the Lund's up here on Ray Roberts. If you would like to come test drive several with different motors come by and see me. We have a 1875 with a 150hp, a 1775 with a 115hp, a 1675 with a 90hp and a 1650 with a 60hp. It would serve you well to come drive a few and see what you like.
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Re: Aluminum Boat - Texas Lake Fishing
[Re: armyfishing]
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05/24/14 11:30 PM
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Topwater2
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I have a 2 stroke 115 Pro XS and it runs quiet, fuel and oil injected. Fill with gas, fill with oil and off you go. Great on gas too.
FishKen
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