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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/17/14 07:57 PM
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YakFishField
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My first boat was an old town guide. It was cheep 14ft canoe. The stories that boat could tell. I still have it and will never sell it. Fishing should be happy. Not sad because you cant afford a fancy rig. Now I have that song stuck in my head! So good. Great writeup brotha. If everyone in the kayak fishing community decided to all "row in the same direction" I can't imagine the benefit to the sport that would result. This whole "us vs. them" mentality is not only annoying, but it drastically slows the growth of our sport. In the past when I've talked to companies that could potentially become sponsors, I've always made one thing clear: I will never bash somebody or something simply because it's made by a competitor. Ever. Just because it's not my favorite or it's not my sponsor's product doesn't mean it doesn't have merit and uses for others. Having said all that... HOBIES RULE, PADDLERS DROOL  :rolfmao:
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/17/14 08:06 PM
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Jerry Hamon
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If you were to give me $3000 I would buy two more Ultimate FX12's. I think the Hobie PA's are the bees knees but, they don't work for me as I walk 8 hours a day 5 + days a week. When I'm off work I don't want to be on the StairMaster, therefore I prefer to paddle. Take the money out of the picture and I still have the same beliefs. Good thoughts and questions. I have no clue how you could get an actual count of paddle vs. pedal. There will always be some bias, circumstance, or belief that will skew your results IMHO. 
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/17/14 09:24 PM
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mjmfc
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I'm on my second paddle kayak in about 2 yrs after crossing over from bass boat fishing. I really enjoy all aspects of kayak fishing. I plan to buy a peddle yak in the very near future because I believe it will free my hands and make fishing the way I fish a little easier. Or at least make me more efficient. Personally, I could care less about what type of boat someone has or doesn't have. I'm in it for the fishing and, if you want to fish with me and you float a bathtub, bring it on to the lake. I've got plenty of other stuff in my life to be bothered by...... After having admitted to wanting a paddle boat it may be harder to get Louis to join me at the lake but I bet he'll come around. 
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/17/14 10:30 PM
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Slingbait
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I just got a peddle kayak. I plan to keep the paddle one or sell/trade for another thats good for creek fishing. I can see the reasons for either, or both in my case. I love chasing Hybrids at Cooper so the PA is great for that. I also love the 380 Greenbelt so I will keep the Cuda or maybe get a little smaller kayak for that. I am fortunate enough to have options, but some folks may not be able to purchase what they want or may not be physically able to peddle/paddle what they prefer. I have met quite a few kayakers, and so far they have all been nice people and I have not found any difference between the brand of Kayak and how they have treated me.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/18/14 03:34 AM
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No-Snag
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I recently purchased a PA 14 and I have to admit I feel guilty about it. I also own a Quest and a Big Tuna. In the past I had a Wilderness Commander 140 and a Hurricane Pheonix 14.
I weight 300lbs and the Quest is now just too small. The Pheonix was a fast yak but terribly unstable for me. And the Commander and Big Tuna were both too sluggish.
I love the simplistic ruggedness of kayak fishing. I enjoyed paddling, making my own way under my own, somewhat, primitive power. But my shoulders just can't take it any longer. Old sports injuries have begun to rear their ugly heads!
My wife and brother fish with me quite often and they paddle. I now peddle, and don't suffer chronic shoulder pain. But I feel guilty because I am faster than they are and because my yak cost twice what their yaks did. I would like to start entering tournaments but here again, that guilty feeling creeps in again.
Anyone else feel guilty for being able to afford a "Cadillac"?
Fear is the Mind Killer!
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: No-Snag]
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03/18/14 12:44 PM
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CanadiYak
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Once again Chris great write up I honestly believe this is one of my favorites.That's what I enjoy about the yakking community is that I feel you are not judged by what you paddle or peddle.I still to this day think my Pescador 12 was one of my favorite yaks that I have owned.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: No-Snag]
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03/18/14 01:04 PM
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BassFever
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I recently purchased a PA 14 and I have to admit I feel guilty about it. I also own a Quest and a Big Tuna. In the past I had a Wilderness Commander 140 and a Hurricane Pheonix 14.
I weight 300lbs and the Quest is now just too small. The Pheonix was a fast yak but terribly unstable for me. And the Commander and Big Tuna were both too sluggish.
I love the simplistic ruggedness of kayak fishing. I enjoyed paddling, making my own way under my own, somewhat, primitive power. But my shoulders just can't take it any longer. Old sports injuries have begun to rear their ugly heads!
My wife and brother fish with me quite often and they paddle. I now peddle, and don't suffer chronic shoulder pain. But I feel guilty because I am faster than they are and because my yak cost twice what their yaks did. I would like to start entering tournaments but here again, that guilty feeling creeps in again.
Anyone else feel guilty for being able to afford a "Cadillac"? If you really feel that guilty give it to me.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: No-Snag]
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03/18/14 01:10 PM
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H.Town_paddler
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I recently purchased a PA 14 and I have to admit I feel guilty about it. I also own a Quest and a Big Tuna. In the past I had a Wilderness Commander 140 and a Hurricane Pheonix 14.
I weight 300lbs and the Quest is now just too small. The Pheonix was a fast yak but terribly unstable for me. And the Commander and Big Tuna were both too sluggish.
I love the simplistic ruggedness of kayak fishing. I enjoyed paddling, making my own way under my own, somewhat, primitive power. But my shoulders just can't take it any longer. Old sports injuries have begun to rear their ugly heads!
My wife and brother fish with me quite often and they paddle. I now peddle, and don't suffer chronic shoulder pain. But I feel guilty because I am faster than they are and because my yak cost twice what their yaks did. I would like to start entering tournaments but here again, that guilty feeling creeps in again.
Anyone else feel guilty for being able to afford a "Cadillac"? It is no different than one guy having better electronics than someone else or having a $40 paddler vs a $400 paddle. All that gear is just tools for you but none of them guarantee you'll catch fish. I'm not sure about the first tournament this year but the last two have been won by guys in paddle kayaks. At tournament registration when you look around and see that guys like Tom, Guillermo and Todd are all there with paddle kayaks, trust me you won't "feel guilty" for having a peddle kayak.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: No-Snag]
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03/18/14 01:31 PM
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Blakehock
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I recently purchased a PA 14 and I have to admit I feel guilty about it. I also own a Quest and a Big Tuna. In the past I had a Wilderness Commander 140 and a Hurricane Pheonix 14.
I weight 300lbs and the Quest is now just too small. The Pheonix was a fast yak but terribly unstable for me. And the Commander and Big Tuna were both too sluggish.
I love the simplistic ruggedness of kayak fishing. I enjoyed paddling, making my own way under my own, somewhat, primitive power. But my shoulders just can't take it any longer. Old sports injuries have begun to rear their ugly heads!
My wife and brother fish with me quite often and they paddle. I now peddle, and don't suffer chronic shoulder pain. But I feel guilty because I am faster than they are and because my yak cost twice what their yaks did. I would like to start entering tournaments but here again, that guilty feeling creeps in again.
Anyone else feel guilty for being able to afford a "Cadillac"? Nope, I have a buddy that fishes with me out of a small Pelican. I just tow him over long distances haha! Put the money to good use.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/18/14 08:02 PM
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JAlderson
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Great article. I personally own a Native Ultimate 14.5 with a Bassyak. I did not see Hobie Kayaks and the Propel didn't seem that it would work that great (I didnt demo....). I picked my set up because of my primary fishing water, Lake Alan Henry. LAH has ONE boat ramp to launch from so I needed something that can handle open water and help with the trip to my fishing destinations. If you think peddle guys get questioned having a trolling motor is alot worse but why?
I haven't been able to attend a tournament yet but I don't fully understand why you can have a peddle yak but not a trolling motor. I realize that it may not be "man powered" but I still paddle once I get to a fishing location. It's not like using a trolling motors on power boats where you use them 99% of the day. I don't troll to catch any fish and use my paddle just as much as everyone once I get to my spot. Also, I havent seen a launch in a KATS tourny but it seems like there would be clumps of kayakers staying closer to the launch points rather than traveling to find unique spots. I have also made a trip on a section of the Llano and left my motor at home. I'm sure many peddle kayakers do the same b/c its not practical and is easier to just go with the flow. I also Haven't been able to fish a smaller lake or even fish lakes with multiple launch points.
So before you judge the few of us with trolling motors realize that there might reasons other than being lazy.
Next argument is going to be motorized VS peddle.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/18/14 08:21 PM
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PayneFish
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I know Alan Henry well. It'd take the better part of a day to work your way back to Big Grape without a motor. I wish they had some put ins over there but with all the housing etc going up you'd need to have a lot on the lake.
Last edited by PayneFish; 03/18/14 08:22 PM.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/18/14 09:05 PM
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Bass Art
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ped�dle [ped-l] Show IPA
verb (used with object), ped�dled, ped�dling.
1. to carry (small articles, goods, wares, etc.) from place to place for sale at retail; hawk.
2. to deal out, distribute, or dispense, especially in small quantities: to peddle radical ideas.
3.to sell (drugs) illicitly.
So, what are you guys selling from these peddle kayaks?
The word is pedal........LOL......
Artie ________________________________ Dad took me fishing when I was 10, and I've been pretty much hooked since. He went to be with God on August 14, 2012. I miss you, Dad.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: PayneFish]
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03/18/14 09:07 PM
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JAlderson
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I know Alan Henry well. It'd take the better part of a day to work your way back to Big Grape without a motor. I wish they had some put ins over there but with all the housing etc going up you'd need to have a lot on the lake. It is tough. Lubbock is the worst place to live if you want to fish. I STILL haven't made it to Big Grape even with the trolling motor. What are your home waters?
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: JAlderson]
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03/18/14 09:13 PM
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PayneFish
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I know Alan Henry well. It'd take the better part of a day to work your way back to Big Grape without a motor. I wish they had some put ins over there but with all the housing etc going up you'd need to have a lot on the lake. It is tough. Lubbock is the worst place to live if you want to fish. I STILL haven't made it to Big Grape even with the trolling motor. What are your home waters? I was in Lubbock for parts of high school and in Abilene for college so I fished it a lot then. Before that Oak Creek, Lake Sweetwater and Ivie were in heavy rotation. Now I'm fishing the Colorado chain in Austin and then Lake Belton and Stillhouse Hollow. You should try the kayak out at Ransom Canyon and Buffalo Springs. Not a lot of big bass but some hybrids, cats and big bluegill. Just stay on the north side where the power boats can't go.
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Re: PPF: Pedal vs Paddle
[Re: JAlderson]
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03/19/14 02:05 AM
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Grease Bath
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Great article. I personally own a Native Ultimate 14.5 with a Bassyak. I did not see Hobie Kayaks and the Propel didn't seem that it would work that great (I didnt demo....). I picked my set up because of my primary fishing water, Lake Alan Henry. LAH has ONE boat ramp to launch from so I needed something that can handle open water and help with the trip to my fishing destinations. If you think peddle guys get questioned having a trolling motor is alot worse but why?
I haven't been able to attend a tournament yet but I don't fully understand why you can have a peddle yak but not a trolling motor. I realize that it may not be "man powered" but I still paddle once I get to a fishing location. It's not like using a trolling motors on power boats where you use them 99% of the day. I don't troll to catch any fish and use my paddle just as much as everyone once I get to my spot. Also, I havent seen a launch in a KATS tourny but it seems like there would be clumps of kayakers staying closer to the launch points rather than traveling to find unique spots. I have also made a trip on a section of the Llano and left my motor at home. I'm sure many peddle kayakers do the same b/c its not practical and is easier to just go with the flow. I also Haven't been able to fish a smaller lake or even fish lakes with multiple launch points.
So before you judge the few of us with trolling motors realize that there might reasons other than being lazy.
Next argument is going to be motorized VS peddle. I think the reason your BassYak isn't allowed in kayak tournaments is the same reason why golfers cant use carts in golf tournaments. The all day paddling or pedaling can take a toll on the competitive angler as the day goes on. A guy with a trolling motor has a HUGE advantage when it comes to competitive fishing IMO.
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