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10,000 Hours #9806806 03/08/14 09:56 PM
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They say it takes 10,000 hours to become a expert/pro, at anything you do. Do you think you've fished that much?

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Re: 10,000 Hours [Re: Andrew Taylor] #9806823 03/08/14 10:04 PM
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that might be a good number to throw out, but in many fields some reach a top level quicker and some are never capable.

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"They" say a lot of things. Most are wrong....like this one.


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That figures 200 hour a year for me so I past 10000 long ago but I consider Pro as one who does something as a profession for a living I don't. But I sure have fun doin it

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Originally Posted By: Rob Lay
that might be a good number to throw out, but in many fields some reach a top level quicker and some are never capable.



This is correct. Originally the term was (pretty much made out of thin air). It was originally from a book called "The Sports Gene" and the "theory" has been widely criticized. ............. The SPorts Gene


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Who are "they" these they say lots of ignorant things haha.

I've probably fished more than 10000 hours. I can't barely spell PRO.

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"They" must be really smart. "They" once said that it takes 1,000,000 repetitions to be perfect at something but I still trip and fall every now and then when walking.


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Yes and still not an expert.


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The whole "pro" fisherman thing brings up an image that is sometimes incorrect. I've known folks, every lake has em, that jackpot local tournaments on the lake they have confidence in, it's their only means of income....fish out of 20-yr-old boats...and clear between 12k and 20k yearly. Many are happy as pigs in, well...happy pigs. Anyway, they are very much "professional" bass fishermen.


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Originally Posted By: Bruce Johns
The whole "pro" fisherman thing brings up an image that is sometimes incorrect. I've known folks, every lake has em, that jackpot local tournaments on the lake they have confidence in, it's their only means of income....fish out of 20-yr-old boats...and clear between 12k and 20k yearly. Many are happy as pigs in, well...happy pigs. Anyway, they are very much "professional" bass fishermen.



I would bet that there are a few that are on the "real" pro circuits who, without a little luck, aren't far from that figure either.


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I don't know about being an expert, but I have logged in that many hours at least in my lifetime.

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its all in your head...king Solomon said it best..."vanity, all is vanity"...

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Pro and expert are not the same thing. A pro is just someone who gets paid to do something. Expert implies something beyond professional status.

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OMG The numbers ya'll are talking, I don't think I'll still be around.
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Originally Posted By: Big C
Originally Posted By: Rob Lay
that might be a good number to throw out, but in many fields some reach a top level quicker and some are never capable.



This is correct. Originally the term was (pretty much made out of thin air). It was originally from a book called "The Sports Gene" and the "theory" has been widely criticized. ............. The SPorts Gene


Actually, the 10K hours "rule" wasn't pulled out of thin air, it came from the early 2000s published studies of master violin students by Dr. Anders Ericsson, an FSU psychologist and adopted by many publications since. It's a pretty decent indicator of how long it takes to raise your game to the "expert" level in anything, but as others have mentioned, it's not an exact science (with the endless variables involved in this discussion, no amount of hours could ever cover everything).

He also stated that 10K hours of practice alone wouldn't make anyone an expert, but that it took "deliberate practice" with constant improvements and tweaks to truly master any particular activity. He stressed that 10K hours of practicing terrible technique would only serve to yield terrible results. Learning from mistakes and constantly pushing yourself over time at your activity is more important than any arbitrary amount of hours.

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