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To be a guide?
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03/06/14 02:29 PM
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RKT
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What SHOULD it take be a bass fishing guide? Currently in a Texas it seems like all one needs to do to be a guide in freshwater is to get on the Internet on forums like this and label yourself a guide. Then jump on any and all threads about the lake to give yourself exposure until some unfortunate out of towner goes looking on the Internet for a "guide" and hires the one they see advertising. Should Texas set standards as to what it takes to demonstrate some type experience such as prior proven success in the field ( such as tournament history)? Should we set some type of system that people rate the guides abilities after each paid trip for others to see? Or should we just leave it alone so anyone who wants to say they are a guide can be?
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799784
03/06/14 02:36 PM
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Joined: Apr 2005
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papamark
Mini Tractor
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Mama says I make a Good Guide and Net man
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799798
03/06/14 02:43 PM
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Joined: Jun 2005
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Slade
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It may sound easy, but I guarantee you if anyone starts taking people out on a regular basis and not catching fish, then the life of a guide will be short lived. Its very much a results driven career. So the credentials don't matter near as much as the results. If someone can produce the results on a consistent basis, then everything else will take care of itself. But I would think that it is one of those jobs that looks easy, but those guys work their butts off, and work longer hours than most of us.
PB 10.58 Joe Pool
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799801
03/06/14 02:44 PM
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Gilbert M.
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Well you should have a TPWD permit I would think. Other than that it's like any other occupation ie. mechanic, painter, etc. That's why you should do your homework before soliciting any service.
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: papamark]
#9799811
03/06/14 02:45 PM
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Toad Jerker
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Yep I agree it seems like every tom dick and harry are calling themselves guides these days!!! In fact I think that during this convo I just became a guide!!! Call me if you wanna go fishing on a lake somewhere for some fish cause I have been killing em at whatever lake you pick on deep,shallow point rock stumps on a deep diving crank brush lizard in stained clear dirty water in the back of main lake points. I currently have availabilities so call me for the best fishing experience of your life and oh by the way there are no refunds if we happen to not get on them!!! lol
Last edited by Toad Jerker; 03/06/14 02:46 PM.
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799814
03/06/14 02:46 PM
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,994
Skip
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In order to guide in Texas a person has to obtain a license from TP&W. There is no way to test for the right to get a license. Leave it the way it is. If you want to fish with a guide use the internet to research who ever you are looking at for a trip.
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: Toad Jerker]
#9799827
03/06/14 02:49 PM
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Gilbert M.
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Yep I agree it seems like every tom dick and harry are calling themselves guides these days!!! In fact I think that during this convo I just became a guide!!! Call me if you wanna go fishing on a lake somewhere for some fish cause I have been killing em at whatever lake you pick on deep,shallow point rock stumps on a deep diving crank brush lizard in stained clear dirty water in the back of main lake points. I currently have availabilities so call me for the best fishing experience of your life and oh by the way there are no refunds if we happen to not get on them!!! lol LOL that sounds like most reports!
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799829
03/06/14 02:50 PM
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Bruce Johns
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That's an interesting question. I knew a gentleman over at Cedar Creek who guided for years. Cliff (sorry, I forget his last name), was a great guide from what I've heard. His clients loved him and he had many repeats. He put people on fish. He was pleasant, and was very good at instructional techniques, depending on what his clients wanted and their skill levels. As far as I know...he never fished tournaments....thought they were kinda silly. So, I'm not sure that tournament fishing is the indicator of "success in the field". I'm not sure what a good indicator system would be. It seems that offshore guides have to pass some pretty intense tests....maybe that's the answer but, who's gonna write the tests and what would be their content? Would you have a test for technique knowledge?  It's sure something to think about though.
Now Entering the Black Forest Caution: -camouflage cottonmouths -stumps are perpetually 4" under surface -unforecast windstorms -gators that act funny -game wardens off their meds Have a Nice Day
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799834
03/06/14 02:51 PM
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Posts: 50,396
fouzman
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Methuselah
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Pretend guides don't last more than a season. Its fine the way it is.
Coincidence is His way of remaining anonymous.
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: Gilbert M.]
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03/06/14 02:52 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
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wwilliford
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Yep I agree it seems like every tom dick and harry are calling themselves guides these days!!! In fact I think that during this convo I just became a guide!!! Call me if you wanna go fishing on a lake somewhere for some fish cause I have been killing em at whatever lake you pick on deep,shallow point rock stumps on a deep diving crank brush lizard in stained clear dirty water in the back of main lake points. I currently have availabilities so call me for the best fishing experience of your life and oh by the way there are no refunds if we happen to not get on them!!! lol LOL that sounds like most reports! +1
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: Bruce Johns]
#9799861
03/06/14 02:57 PM
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Joined: May 2009
Posts: 4,170
snickers
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You knew a guide for years and you don't know his last name. Come on man That's an interesting question. I knew a gentleman over at Cedar Creek who guided for years. Cliff (sorry, I forget his last name), was a great guide from what I've heard. His clients loved him and he had many repeats. He put people on fish. He was pleasant, and was very good at instructional techniques, depending on what his clients wanted and their skill levels. As far as I know...he never fished tournaments....thought they were kinda silly. So, I'm not sure that tournament fishing is the indicator of "success in the field". I'm not sure what a good indicator system would be. It seems that offshore guides have to pass some pretty intense tests....maybe that's the answer but, who's gonna write the tests and what would be their content? Would you have a test for technique knowledge?  It's sure something to think about though.
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799889
03/06/14 03:02 PM
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Joined: Feb 2008
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bogey♂
TFF Guru
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TFF Guru
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Don't forget about that insurance that is required.
you know, nothing wrong with seven men who met on the internet going for a swim together
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: snickers]
#9799906
03/06/14 03:08 PM
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Joined: Oct 2013
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Bruce Johns
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I'm 58. I do good to remember what I ate for dinner yesterday. Break given. There was also a lady at Cedar Creek who had a deck boat and guided for sand bass exclusively. Sorry, I don't remember her name either but I worked for Northland Cable News at the time and these guides did periodic fishing reports for the cable news. What sort of a test should a sand bass guide take? I can imagine the questions: "Please indicate the proper wiggle for a slab spoon in 20' water at 60 degrees"  I do have an observed opinion on what we don't need: We don't need a system like Montana has on their flyfishing and hunting guides. The state issues a limited number of "outfitter licenses" and they are pricey. It's a good-ol-boy network and no matter how good of a guide you may be....you can't guide unless you work for an "outfitter". It's awful. You knew a guide for years and you don't know his last name. Come on man That's an interesting question. I knew a gentleman over at Cedar Creek who guided for years. Cliff (sorry, I forget his last name), was a great guide from what I've heard. His clients loved him and he had many repeats. He put people on fish. He was pleasant, and was very good at instructional techniques, depending on what his clients wanted and their skill levels. As far as I know...he never fished tournaments....thought they were kinda silly. So, I'm not sure that tournament fishing is the indicator of "success in the field". I'm not sure what a good indicator system would be. It seems that offshore guides have to pass some pretty intense tests....maybe that's the answer but, who's gonna write the tests and what would be their content? Would you have a test for technique knowledge?  It's sure something to think about though.
Now Entering the Black Forest Caution: -camouflage cottonmouths -stumps are perpetually 4" under surface -unforecast windstorms -gators that act funny -game wardens off their meds Have a Nice Day
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799924
03/06/14 03:12 PM
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Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 121,182
hopalong
Pescador Loco
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I BEEN KILLIN EM LATELY, COME FISH WITH ME!!!!!!! 
Last edited by hopalong; 03/06/14 03:13 PM. Reason: sorry james but this was too easy, no offense ment
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
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Re: To be a guide?
[Re: RKT]
#9799925
03/06/14 03:12 PM
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Joined: Mar 2008
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YankHardReelFast
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When you have your car worked on do you just take it to a person that calls himself a mechanic? When you need a plumber do you just call one that says he's a plumber? If you were hiring entertainment for your kids birthday party, wouldn't you require references?
There comes a point where it's YOUR responsibility to check out who you pay your money to. Don't blame the guide, mechanic, plumber or clown...do your homework and make a wise choice.
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