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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 04:41 PM
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The Searchers
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Give Roberts a try. That's tuff.
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 05:02 PM
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Fork Man
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In addition to pressure as mentioned above, there are two key variables affecting the catch ratio now vs. the 90's that you mentioned. The first is simply the bass "carrying capacity" of the lake. Between the vast amount of horizontal limbs that still existed on flooded tree trunks, plus grass, there was a significant higher percentage of bass per acre then. We all know this as the new lake syndrome of the first 12-15 years of any impoundment.
Back then, the feeding zones were shallower, as the forage base that bass eat utilized this same horizontal brush cover and grass as their home territory. The majority of the bite this first 15 years was generally in water 15' deep and shallower. With the grass die-off and many of the tree trunks now being "telephone poles", meaning they have very few horizonal limbs left, the forage mainly consists of threadfin/gizzard shad, barfish and crappie living in deeper, structure oriented water.
Thus, the second key is that your techniques and patterns should also change to reflect this trend in what they feed on and where the food is located. With the maturing lake and prolonged drought, patterns have drastically shifted the past 8-10 years.
Having said all that, I think the lake is due for a good "re-birth" once weathern patterns change. Much like Toledo and Rayburn (impounded in the 60's), they had a comeback when the hydrilla appeared. The grass has already started its re-appearance in the northern arms like Birch, Running Creek and others. I hit some good deep hydrilla last weekend in 7' of water not far from the dam, a very good sign. If we get good rain and the lake fills to full pool, flooding a lot of grass and brush coupled with the hydrilla return, the old girl just might show what she's capable of again.
As others said, it ain't that bad now compared to other fisheries, but give her 4 1/2 feet of water and keep it there for a year and see what happens. If you see 10' plus deep grass on Dale Ridge again, OMG.......
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 05:08 PM
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Bluewave71
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Wow, that makes a lot of since.
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 05:41 PM
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tommyc
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JK, that lake is still loaded. As many have said, it just fishes different than in years past
Tom Cornelius
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 06:11 PM
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upside
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The fish are still in the wet part of the lake. Fishing places that produced years ago are high and dry now. It is not just Fork, but most of the lakes around Texas. Try catching fish under the bride in Oak Cove at Tawakoni now.
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 06:16 PM
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rejcek
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I have had the opportunity to fish Fork for the past year and half avg.2weekends per mo.and have been totally blanked more times than not,last weekend fished hard using every bait in the boat did not get a single bite,the last time we caught fish was on a guide trip with Mark Pack and we did wear them out that day,and I guess these other days are just payback????
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 06:21 PM
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I only bass fish a couple of times a year and since I live in Rockwall and have a trailer on Fork I fish it. I believe it is the pressure. When it comes to bass fihing I would much rather fish Ray Roberts. When I lived in Roanoke it was normally my first choice for bass. Since I moved to Rockwall almost 15 years I have not fished Roberts but I am thinking it now gests similar pressure as Fork.
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: rejcek]
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02/19/14 06:39 PM
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Lee in Texas
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God Love Ya,  your luck sounds like mine! Hang in there 'Shipmate', you will be successful yet. Darned water is just to cold and our weather patterns have really been fouled up. Try to keep in mind, all of these guides on Lake Fork are out there almost every day. Watch fish patterns, temperature, etc. If the rest of us had time such as that to devote to the sport....you/we would be doing as well or almost as well as some of them. These are seasoned pros for the most part who live and 'work' the lake. Someone on here told me 'It's Fishing'.....catching is a who different matter. Now, when you catch some, and you will, post some pictures!! LOL< remember to 'gray out' the background.......Hhahaa...Oh Lord...some on here I have to say, take this way, way, way to seriously. Just my humble opinion... I have had the opportunity to fish Fork for the past year and half avg.2weekends per mo.and have been totally blanked more times than not,last weekend fished hard using every bait in the boat did not get a single bite,the last time we caught fish was on a guide trip with Mark Pack and we did wear them out that day,and I guess these other days are just payback????
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 07:07 PM
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hopalong
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guess I shouldn't have caught that 6# off our dock last night. 
" Hop, set the hook"! hopalong 99,999 TexDawg 99,999 FJB! not my president by a long shot!
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 07:13 PM
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For those of you that did not get to fish fork from the mid 80's until the LMB virus in the late 90's, I will just say it was FUN!  The lake is still loaded with good fish, it was just different back then.
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 07:30 PM
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Lee in Texas
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I haven't got to fish and being realistic, from my age and the distance, probably will never get to fish the lake but, from everything I read/hear and see on here and not to mention TPWD re-stocks the lake, it just keeps getting better and better. LOL,  now, the fish may be getting smarter....but ya'll are doing great. Once we get over this lousy weather thing...ya'll will be catching and bragging about you day (and rightfully so - heck I would be). No, I'm old enough to remember when they first opened the lake and all the fishing stories that came out about the lake the years following, but it seems like the lake is thriving really. From what I read, there is a lot of pressure on the lake, so there may be slow times....but they pass like all things. Even today, I enjoy reading ya'll's posts about whats happening or not there and the guide stories. Just keep posting. Many of us really enjoy all of your stories... 
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Fork Man]
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02/19/14 08:31 PM
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Dr JL
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In addition to pressure as mentioned above, there are two key variables affecting the catch ratio now vs. the 90's that you mentioned. The first is simply the bass "carrying capacity" of the lake. Between the vast amount of horizontal limbs that still existed on flooded tree trunks, plus grass, there was a significant higher percentage of bass per acre then. We all know this as the new lake syndrome of the first 12-15 years of any impoundment.
Back then, the feeding zones were shallower, as the forage base that bass eat utilized this same horizontal brush cover and grass as their home territory. The majority of the bite this first 15 years was generally in water 15' deep and shallower. With the grass die-off and many of the tree trunks now being "telephone poles", meaning they have very few horizonal limbs left, the forage mainly consists of threadfin/gizzard shad, barfish and crappie living in deeper, structure oriented water.
Thus, the second key is that your techniques and patterns should also change to reflect this trend in what they feed on and where the food is located. With the maturing lake and prolonged drought, patterns have drastically shifted the past 8-10 years.
Having said all that, I think the lake is due for a good "re-birth" once weathern patterns change. Much like Toledo and Rayburn (impounded in the 60's), they had a comeback when the hydrilla appeared. The grass has already started its re-appearance in the northern arms like Birch, Running Creek and others. I hit some good deep hydrilla last weekend in 7' of water not far from the dam, a very good sign. If we get good rain and the lake fills to full pool, flooding a lot of grass and brush coupled with the hydrilla return, the old girl just might show what she's capable of again.
As others said, it ain't that bad now compared to other fisheries, but give her 4 1/2 feet of water and keep it there for a year and see what happens. If you see 10' plus deep grass on Dale Ridge again, OMG.......
This seems like a really good answer to your question . It CAN be very tough
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/19/14 11:43 PM
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Joe D
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The bass might not be the sharpest tack in the box but I'm bettin they have seen every lure ever manufactured or made.
Long time bass fisherman, in Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Florida, West by God Virginia,Minnesota,Indiana,Canada and now my new home state of Texas.
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Joe D]
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02/19/14 11:51 PM
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Lee in Texas
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The bass might not be the sharpest tack in the box but I'm bettin they have seen every lure ever manufactured or made.  I'll bet your right pardner!!
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Re: Lake fork why is it tough to catch bass
[Re: Bluewave71]
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02/20/14 12:08 AM
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Lowly Net Boy
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It really quite easy to understand, the sandbass have eaten all the bass, the snakeheads have eaten all the sandbass, the gators have eaten all the snakeheads, and when the zebra mussels take over, the walleye will show up and we can all get rid of our bassboats and buy a Ranger 621 VS
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