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Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9531989 12/03/13 01:14 PM
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12# flouro , swivel about 12" above light wire hook. ML rod 6'8-7' length. Sweep hookset

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Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9532040 12/03/13 01:45 PM
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the senko will catch fish when nothing else will. I have really beeen trying to fish it a lot more. the key as many mentioned above is SLOW.


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Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9532071 12/03/13 02:02 PM
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Weightless 5" Senko got my 12.76 at Choke to bite. Most people consider it a numbers bait, not a quality fish bait, but if you put it in their face, the big girls will slurp it up too. I only fish it weightless with a 3/0 hook.


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Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9532072 12/03/13 02:02 PM
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You have the basic already in your pond fishing experience.

To learn a new technique try these tips below:
- Contact Bobby at Whopper Baits in my sig.. Ask him to hand pour your favorite color in a high floating Senko.
- Be sure to have him put the Night Crawler scent in the Senkos.

Go to this link and contact Mark Pack for his newest Shaky Head Skirted Jigs. and use the Senko for the bait of choice.

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I truly believe you will have a great combination and an exciting new technique for you to try.

I have already been using this technique for years in Mexico with great success. It is right up there with the T-Rig Lizard and 100 Bass per day.


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Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9532713 12/03/13 06:06 PM
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How many folks actually work the senko all the way back? If so, doesn't it take 5, 7, 10 minutes? And are you getting strikes along the way?

I've caught several on weightless wacky senkos, throwing to a specific fishy spot. Most strikes are on the fall. Only a few fish have come during the retrieve.

And I can only count one fish landed on a Texas-rigged senko. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or just throwing wacky more often.

Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9532781 12/03/13 06:44 PM
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I fished a Senko exclusively for about 8-12 months and here is what I've gathered from my own personal experience.

1) T-rig

Fish them on a 3/0 or 4/0 EWG hook t-rigged weightless. I generally use 10 - 14 lb flouro leader (length not too much a factor here but generally starting with 6') with braid.

Hook should be texposed, knot hidden in top of senko.

After a cast, I'm watching the line the entire time. Obviously like any other line watching technique you are seeing if they get it on the fall (movement follows). If they don't get it on the fall I'll either do a quick pop of the rod tip to lift it at least 6" off bottom or I'll do a very gradual rise of the rod tip which will float it towards you in a more gentle manner.

Waiting games from here on out when you repeat this all the way back to you. I've had fish follow it and take it when it gets close so yes I work it all the way.

I'll also do a very slow drag (especially during warmer weather and during spawn) along the bottom. I won't even reel sometimes, just dragging the rod tip in a sweeping manner moving the Senko 6-12" each time, with a 4-5 sec pause after. This is deadly when you come across some submerged grass or a brushpile! Sometimes I'm looking for my Senko to get snagged a bit and you can do small pops and jerks where it looks like its either feeding or trying to escape and when it finally pops loose BAM!

2) Wacky

I think wacky has a time and place but it's not my preferred method of fishing a Senko. I use VMC wacky hooks with the weedguard and no nail weights no lead.

I start out the same after a cast letting it fall on slack line and do my pops but I'm generally working this much slower in a YoYo manner.

I've had times where the fish want something faster and aggressive so the popping the rod tip with faster jerks will cause a bigger commotion.

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My rod setup for this is Falcon weightless worm 6'8" MH rod, 20lb braid, 10-14lb flouro leader, 6.4:1 reel.

I don't think it's really necessary to use spinning for Senko's and I can still skip them all day long if need be.

Biggest thing I noticed for myself and Senkos is be patient, watch your line, and let the bait do its thing. If you get a chance to watch how it falls you will appreciate the subtle squirm of that tail and that is what drives fish crazy.

Good luck!

Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9532834 12/03/13 07:07 PM
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I absolutely love fishing these weightless on a 3/0 Shaw Grigsby HP EWG Hook. The keeper on the front gives me a ton more casts on these things and lets me really chunk em out there. No issues on hook ups.



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Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9532837 12/03/13 07:08 PM
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what lb test to use for weightless rig?

Re: Fishing a senko [Re: coachmatt] #9532874 12/03/13 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: coachmatt
what lb test to use for weightless rig?


Depends on where you are fishing and water clarity. I mainly use 12-15lb flouro because of where I am fishing and the need to get the fish out of the cover. I have fished them on braid as well....drops nice and slow on braid and you can watch your line easier for the slightest tick.



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Re: Fishing a senko [Re: rxkid2001] #9532919 12/03/13 07:41 PM
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does mono really make it fall that much slower?

Re: Fishing a senko [Re: mcosi] #9532967 12/03/13 07:54 PM
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Awesome info. Thank you.

Originally Posted By: mcosi
I fished a Senko exclusively for about 8-12 months and here is what I've gathered from my own personal experience.

1) T-rig

Fish them on a 3/0 or 4/0 EWG hook t-rigged weightless. I generally use 10 - 14 lb flouro leader (length not too much a factor here but generally starting with 6') with braid.

Hook should be texposed, knot hidden in top of senko.

After a cast, I'm watching the line the entire time. Obviously like any other line watching technique you are seeing if they get it on the fall (movement follows). If they don't get it on the fall I'll either do a quick pop of the rod tip to lift it at least 6" off bottom or I'll do a very gradual rise of the rod tip which will float it towards you in a more gentle manner.

Waiting games from here on out when you repeat this all the way back to you. I've had fish follow it and take it when it gets close so yes I work it all the way.

I'll also do a very slow drag (especially during warmer weather and during spawn) along the bottom. I won't even reel sometimes, just dragging the rod tip in a sweeping manner moving the Senko 6-12" each time, with a 4-5 sec pause after. This is deadly when you come across some submerged grass or a brushpile! Sometimes I'm looking for my Senko to get snagged a bit and you can do small pops and jerks where it looks like its either feeding or trying to escape and when it finally pops loose BAM!

2) Wacky

I think wacky has a time and place but it's not my preferred method of fishing a Senko. I use VMC wacky hooks with the weedguard and no nail weights no lead.

I start out the same after a cast letting it fall on slack line and do my pops but I'm generally working this much slower in a YoYo manner.

I've had times where the fish want something faster and aggressive so the popping the rod tip with faster jerks will cause a bigger commotion.

------

My rod setup for this is Falcon weightless worm 6'8" MH rod, 20lb braid, 10-14lb flouro leader, 6.4:1 reel.

I don't think it's really necessary to use spinning for Senko's and I can still skip them all day long if need be.

Biggest thing I noticed for myself and Senkos is be patient, watch your line, and let the bait do its thing. If you get a chance to watch how it falls you will appreciate the subtle squirm of that tail and that is what drives fish crazy.

Good luck!

Re: Fishing a senko [Re: coachmatt] #9533084 12/03/13 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: coachmatt
does mono really make it fall that much slower?


Yes it does and if there is a breeze it will pull it away from the cover more quickly too


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Wacky is the only way to go!


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I always go weightless with senkos, normally 10lb floro as well. Catch a ton in ponds but normally dont through it on lakes as often.
Maybe i should haha


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Originally Posted By: michang5
How many folks actually work the senko all the way back? If so, doesn't it take 5, 7, 10 minutes? And are you getting strikes along the way?

I've caught several on weightless wacky senkos, throwing to a specific fishy spot. Most strikes are on the fall. Only a few fish have come during the retrieve.

And I can only count one fish landed on a Texas-rigged senko. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or just throwing wacky more often.


I think working the senko all the way back is kinda situation specific... sometimes you just need to pitch it in a hole and see if anyone is home, or you know the area where you are gonna get bit is right in a specific spot...but, they will bite it on the retrieve also, so don't count it out! As far as how long to keep it out there, I think covering more water is better personally, I would rather have a cast last 3-4 minutes maximum, as noted they are hitting it on the fall so by my logic more fall time = more possible bites. But, rarely have I gotten more than one bite on a single cast (and that might be because I missed a hookset and yanked the bait out of the fishes area...lol)

I admit I am pretty new to fishin' wacky rigs, but I think that because it is all so fresh I can really break down the difference in my technique and some of the finer points that I had to figure out exclusively from trail and error. Where I was going wrong first was on my equipment -- I am still transitioning to bass gear as a lifetime trout guy, and getting a proper rod for worm fishin' made a ton of difference in detecting a bite.

Something that I have figured out, that I think really helped me is this; When you first get your bait in the water, get your line tight enough to detect a bite ASAP while still letting it fall, then each time you raise the tip of your rod and let the bait fall, get your line tight enough to detect a bite again as quickly as you can... I know that is pretty basic and elementary, but that is something it took me a while to get through my head

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