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Finding fish question
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07/13/13 06:19 PM
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bigbass1236
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For you guys that catch them regardless of the lake. How do you go about finding them? I understand seasonal patterns and all, but if you look at a lake map(fork for example)There are hundreds of points, humps, road beds, etc... spread out over thousands of acres. How do you decide where to start? What are you looking at and how do you corilate it when you are on the water? Do you just pick a flat, point and start fishing( which seems like a lot of time on what could be dead water), or do you idle over everything till you see fish. Just trying to getr better and more consistant. I know there are guys that can just pick the right spot on an unfamiliar lake and kill em. Anybody want to share?
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: bigbass1236]
#9126041
07/13/13 07:11 PM
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Tree_Fish
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When looking at the map I section off the lake, mark every good piece of structure in the section I plan to fish. Mainly points, humps and ledges for deeper water and deep water close to shallow for flipping etc. Then when I get to the lake I usually spend most of the first day just spot searching. I'll look at the structure on my graph and see if there is any cover, if there is I'll keep the way point. If there is structure and bait fish then I'll stop and fish. If you find the fish like this chances are you can reproduce this in a different area. Eliminate the spots that don't have structure/baitfish, then you should have some good spots to check throughout the day, if they aren't there at one point chances are they'll be there sometime during the day. Also in the summer you can use the thermocline to eliminate water, just look for structure/cover to intersect the cline. If you don't have a good graph you'll have to rely on the good old fashioned method of using search baits in these areas to find out what's there. I'm no pro but this works for me, hope this helps and good luck to you!
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: bigbass1236]
#9126056
07/13/13 07:16 PM
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davidsonbasser
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Best way to cull out unproductive spots on a lake you have never fished is to ask a local there. They will know, if willing to share. Sometimes, though, just going out and fishing one of these structures with no experience is the best way. Tons of stuff can help you find a good spot. Sonar, baitfish swirls, grass types, timber, shade provided by a hump or tree, etc. If bass are in a specific area, say a point, but aren't on another point, there is always a reason why and usually you can decipher this reason. A lot of people find these spots and are just excited to catch fish, but do not recognize why they caught them. This is key, and will help you find productive spots on other lakes or similar conditions. Always remember why the fish were biting. Also remember, some spots that produce do get passed on from fisherman to fisherman, but at one point somebody was the first to find it and figure out why they bit.
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: bigbass1236]
#9126518
07/13/13 11:29 PM
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Michael.Beaty
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Mark your structures find an area that has a wide variety of it. Mark the areas and look for bait birds. Once you find the type of structure they want you can mame adjustments on what you look for.
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: bigbass1236]
#9131667
07/15/13 06:40 PM
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andyr21
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I too have wondered the same thing. I got to make my second trip ever to fork yesterday and for my partner and i the fishing was tough. A few dinks early and that was it until 3 pm. Then i caught one that weighed 6lbs 13 ounces and after that we caught quite a few. All of the fish we caught were in 2-5 ft of water!! We dont know anything about the lake really. And we dont have very good electronics so we go off depth and what we feel. But we fished from 2 ft all the way to 26 ft and just had a hard time gettin a bite.
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: andyr21]
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07/15/13 10:09 PM
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davidsonbasser
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Remember that. 2-5 ft of water. Did you jot down the weather stats? Any particular cover or nearby structure to where you caught those fish? This will help you, and next time you encounter water that looks even remotely similar, or similar weather conditions, target the same areas. The guys who go out to an unfamiliar lake and catch fish are usually not lucky, they recognize the area where they are catching the fish (or similar patterns) from a previous trip to a different lake. You do have to catch fish first to understand "why", but that is where trial and error comes in. Once you score, stick with the pattern on other lakes.
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: bigbass1236]
#9132749
07/16/13 12:28 AM
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Donald Harper
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I have fished lakes all over the country. All but a hand full was done cold turkey; or never been on the water. I have learned from that hand full of lakes that I have studied for 40 years that I am going to fish where no one else will go or bother with.
I am looking for the thickest shalow cover I can find. Most maps will help you with this information. I am targeting those areas with a good creek bringing the Bass into it.
I threw a spinner bait for the first 20 of those 40 years and won more tournaments than I have won these last 20 years trying to be more versatile. Sometimes I wish I had never bothered with all the appications and baits that are no doubt very productive when you get on fish.
I would alway go to as many of those shallow water, heavey cover areas that I had picked out on the map to be potential winning spots. I would fish them hard and fast until I caught a good keeper. If this didn't happen with in an hour I would move on to the next spot on the map.
When I would catch a good Bass in the thick bushes and lay downs, I would leave it for tournament day. This would give me a starting spot and I would continue going farther back into those type areas until the catching stopped on tournament day then move on to the next area.
My biggest win came out of less than a foot of water in July by two lay downs which were within 10 yards appart. One Bass weighted over 10 and the other one 8 lbs. even. It took a real effort to get to those two lay downs by holding the trolling motor up and working my way across a flat where they had washed up there during high water. Many of you have heard me talk about my Tweaked Spinner Bait for shallow water and I am willing to share.
I have sense tried to have two other go to spots on all lakes that I fish. The medium depth spots which are the shallow water ledges on creek bends and the larger timber sitting on the drops in 5 to 15 foot of water. Side image unites have really made these spots come alive and produce some go to bass that will hopefully cull one or two of your shallow water fish.
The third spots are your deep water spots. This is contour fishing in 20 to 30 foot of water out and around points that drop off fast into deeper water. These are the Bass that I drive over and mark to fish for. When it gets so hot back in the brush I am really coming out to open water points just to cool off and idle over these points until I find the Bass and fish for them.
Having a shallow, midrange and deep water bite is the best way I know to find the Bass. They will be at one of those spots each day and when you find that spot you need not look any farther. If I am getting that shallow water bite I am not going to the other depth ranges I am staying with it unless the quality of the Bass are poor, then I make the move to the midrange areas. If nothing is happening then it is on to the deep water.
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: bigbass1236]
#9134778
07/16/13 05:14 PM
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Bissett
TFF Celebrity
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I throw a moving biat which my go-to is a squarebill. Start on the main lake and work your way into the coves. You'll find out where the fish are staying and then repeat this pattern at similar places. Also, one you find some fish you can slow down and fish with slower baits but I like to hammer it with that squarebill cuz if the fish are there that'll make em eat
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: Donald Harper]
#9135121
07/16/13 07:04 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 126
bassasassin
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I have fished lakes all over the country. All but a hand full was done cold turkey; or never been on the water. I have learned from that hand full of lakes that I have studied for 40 years that I am going to fish where no one else will go or bother with.
I am looking for the thickest shalow cover I can find. Most maps will help you with this information. I am targeting those areas with a good creek bringing the Bass into it.
I threw a spinner bait for the first 20 of those 40 years and won more tournaments than I have won these last 20 years trying to be more versatile. Sometimes I wish I had never bothered with all the appications and baits that are no doubt very productive when you get on fish.
I would alway go to as many of those shallow water, heavey cover areas that I had picked out on the map to be potential winning spots. I would fish them hard and fast until I caught a good keeper. If this didn't happen with in an hour I would move on to the next spot on the map.
When I would catch a good Bass in the thick bushes and lay downs, I would leave it for tournament day. This would give me a starting spot and I would continue going farther back into those type areas until the catching stopped on tournament day then move on to the next area.
My biggest win came out of less than a foot of water in July by two lay downs which were within 10 yards appart. One Bass weighted over 10 and the other one 8 lbs. even. It took a real effort to get to those two lay downs by holding the trolling motor up and working my way across a flat where they had washed up there during high water. Many of you have heard me talk about my Tweaked Spinner Bait for shallow water and I am willing to share.
I have sense tried to have two other go to spots on all lakes that I fish. The medium depth spots which are the shallow water ledges on creek bends and the larger timber sitting on the drops in 5 to 15 foot of water. Side image unites have really made these spots come alive and produce some go to bass that will hopefully cull one or two of your shallow water fish.
The third spots are your deep water spots. This is contour fishing in 20 to 30 foot of water out and around points that drop off fast into deeper water. These are the Bass that I drive over and mark to fish for. When it gets so hot back in the brush I am really coming out to open water points just to cool off and idle over these points until I find the Bass and fish for them.
Having a shallow, midrange and deep water bite is the best way I know to find the Bass. They will be at one of those spots each day and when you find that spot you need not look any farther. If I am getting that shallow water bite I am not going to the other depth ranges I am staying with it unless the quality of the Bass are poor, then I make the move to the midrange areas. If nothing is happening then it is on to the deep water. Donald if a guy reads this report and don't learn nothing he ai'nt listening. Thanks
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Re: Finding fish question
[Re: bigbass1236]
#9135196
07/16/13 07:24 PM
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 52,224
Trickster
Super Freak
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Shallow isolated structure. Start with a craw or creature bait and follow up with a CB.
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