Both of these require a prescription. How do you get around that?

Carefully is the honest anwser.

My fiance and kiddo are able to get both for themselves and if I need one I have access.

However I have friends that simply explain to their doctor their needs. If you ever have to use the eppie pin you will have one heck of a story so it isnt like your going to be back every few months getting a new one. Most doctors can justify this and will write a perscription but if your not putting yourself in the wilds or have a high allergy risk then dont be upset when your doctor refuses your request.

I agree whole heartedly I carry too much stuff and my 1st aid kit is no different. However Im working on loosing weight elsewhere before I ever concider removing anything out of my 1st aid box for me its about piece of mind.

This is a good idea for yourself and also for a guest who may not realize they need one. Once you've been in the position and "seen the need" you won't leave home without one. Easy to get a script. Just explain and ask.

At the minimum, carry some liquid Benadryl.
It'll get you a long ways.

My addition to the suggestion box is Windex.
Regular, original. It's the ammonia you're looking for.

A liberal spraying of Windex on a bee, wasp or scorpion bite neutralizes the sting and the affects almost immediately.
It works GREAT!