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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: HawgHauler]
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06/04/13 03:52 PM
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Jim Deeds
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If everyone can utilize them you can't call it an advantage. Maybe "advantage" is the wrong word. It's more like it levels the playing field and allows people who would not normally be in the hunt to challenge in some cases. I guess it doesn't matter whether or not I agree with their use. As of right now, they are legal and allowed in tournaments - and that's all that matters.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: BrudBass]
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06/04/13 03:56 PM
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jwatts77
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My opinion of an umbrella rig is it is a fishing lure designed primarily from commercial saltwater fishing; modified for bass fishing in freshwater.
Taking into consideration the commercial saltwater application to catch as many fish as possible for commercial sale, the umbrella rig has a stigma about it that it is a "no talent" bait. Throw it out, let it go to the depth desired, and reel/troll; not like using one lure to entice a fish to strike a presentation you manipulate to get the bite.
In other words, the "haters" want to compete in a forum where, "I put my skill up against yours". Not against a technique that takes almost no skill and catches multiple fish (even a limit) in one throw. When viewed with the stigma of saltwater application, simple cast & reel non-manipulation, and multi-fish catches; the umbrella rig is viewed as unsporting to some anglers.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: justme1581]
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06/04/13 04:15 PM
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Fast Lane
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Not a hater, but think it is a problem for tournaments because of the number of fish "hooked" outside the mouth..maybe a rule that all fish must be hooked in the mouth, just like bed fishing, but kinda hard to enforce. Understand the argument that the same applies to jerkbaits and topwaters. I do have them, but certainly not my favorite or go-to bait. You don't have to hook them inside the mouth in most tournaments in Texas.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: Jim Deeds]
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06/04/13 04:22 PM
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Fast Lane
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No unfair advantage, anyone can use it. The analogy to a trot line, live bait or trolling is poor. You really think so? I don't. But then again, that's just what I think. Sort of like your quote is just what you think. It isn't an unfair advantage. Everybody can use it, so what is unfair about it? The ones on here complaining don't ever win tournaments anyway.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: jwatts77]
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06/04/13 04:24 PM
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Fast Lane
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My opinion of an umbrella rig is it is a fishing lure designed primarily from commercial saltwater fishing; modified for bass fishing in freshwater.
Taking into consideration the commercial saltwater application to catch as many fish as possible for commercial sale, the umbrella rig has a stigma about it that it is a "no talent" bait. Throw it out, let it go to the depth desired, and reel/troll; not like using one lure to entice a fish to strike a presentation you manipulate to get the bite.
In other words, the "haters" want to compete in a forum where, "I put my skill up against yours". Not against a technique that takes almost no skill and catches multiple fish (even a limit) in one throw. When viewed with the stigma of saltwater application, simple cast & reel non-manipulation, and multi-fish catches; the umbrella rig is viewed as unsporting to some anglers. There is much more to it than simply casting it out and reeling it straight in. How you retrieve it makes a big difference.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: Jim Deeds]
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06/04/13 04:27 PM
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Fast Lane
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If everyone can utilize them you can't call it an advantage. Maybe "advantage" is the wrong word. It's more like it levels the playing field and allows people who would not normally be in the hunt to challenge in some cases. I guess it doesn't matter whether or not I agree with their use. As of right now, they are legal and allowed in tournaments - and that's all that matters. Yet the ones complaining about it the loudest are the ones that are never in the hunt....go figure..
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: jwatts77]
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06/04/13 04:31 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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My opinion of an umbrella rig is it is a fishing lure designed primarily from commercial saltwater fishing; modified for bass fishing in freshwater.
Taking into consideration the commercial saltwater application to catch as many fish as possible for commercial sale, the umbrella rig has a stigma about it that it is a "no talent" bait. Throw it out, let it go to the depth desired, and reel/troll; not like using one lure to entice a fish to strike a presentation you manipulate to get the bite.
In other words, the "haters" want to compete in a forum where, "I put my skill up against yours". Not against a technique that takes almost no skill and catches multiple fish (even a limit) in one throw. When viewed with the stigma of saltwater application, simple cast & reel non-manipulation, and multi-fish catches; the umbrella rig is viewed as unsporting to some anglers. I can tell you haven't spent much time throwing it. BTW the rule at the KYKX Big Bass Bonanza about no A-rigs....LMAO!
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: BrudBass]
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06/04/13 04:32 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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I like doing stuff people hate. It FUELS my FIRE! 
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: BrudBass]
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06/04/13 04:38 PM
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As soon as I overthrow the government and become Emperor I am going to do four things:
1. Make all trailer balls the same size 2. Make all phone chargers universal 3. Issue an edict that all bathroom doors must push outward to exit. Why would I want to wash my hands, then have to grab a nasty doorknob to get out? 4. Outlaw the words "hater", "haterade", and any variations thereof
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: jwatts77]
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06/04/13 04:42 PM
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Fishing Fester
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My opinion of an umbrella rig is it is a fishing lure designed primarily from commercial saltwater fishing; modified for bass fishing in freshwater.
Taking into consideration the commercial saltwater application to catch as many fish as possible for commercial sale, the umbrella rig has a stigma about it that it is a "no talent" bait. Throw it out, let it go to the depth desired, and reel/troll; not like using one lure to entice a fish to strike a presentation you manipulate to get the bite. THis is what i think exactly. Dont hate anyone for using one, and its actually a great idea. But just seems "talentless" in competetive fishing.
In other words, the "haters" want to compete in a forum where, "I put my skill up against yours". Not against a technique that takes almost no skill and catches multiple fish (even a limit) in one throw. When viewed with the stigma of saltwater application, simple cast & reel non-manipulation, and multi-fish catches; the umbrella rig is viewed as unsporting to some anglers.

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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: Jim Deeds]
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06/04/13 04:43 PM
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forkduc
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All I know is I have yet to catch a fish or get a strike on one. I'm sure I need to keep at it and find the correct retrieve.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: BrudBass]
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06/04/13 04:50 PM
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T-Gauntt
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If our father had had his way, nobody who did not know how to fish would be allowed to disgrace a fish by catching him. ― Norman Maclean
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: forkduc]
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06/04/13 04:51 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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All I know is I have yet to catch a fish or get a strike on one. I'm sure I need to keep at it and find the correct retrieve. Throw it out, let it go to the depth desired, and reel/troll; not like using one lure to entice a fish to strike a presentation you manipulate to get the bite.
Not against a technique that takes almost no skill and catches multiple fish (even a limit) in one throw. When viewed with the stigma of saltwater application, simple cast & reel non-manipulation, and multi-fish catches; I'd look here for all the information on how to catch every fish in the lake without a single amount of skill nor luck. Good stuff....I might start trying it too. 
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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06/04/13 04:53 PM
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jwatts77
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My opinion of an umbrella rig is it is a fishing lure designed primarily from commercial saltwater fishing; modified for bass fishing in freshwater.
Taking into consideration the commercial saltwater application to catch as many fish as possible for commercial sale, the umbrella rig has a stigma about it that it is a "no talent" bait. Throw it out, let it go to the depth desired, and reel/troll; not like using one lure to entice a fish to strike a presentation you manipulate to get the bite.
In other words, the "haters" want to compete in a forum where, "I put my skill up against yours". Not against a technique that takes almost no skill and catches multiple fish (even a limit) in one throw. When viewed with the stigma of saltwater application, simple cast & reel non-manipulation, and multi-fish catches; the umbrella rig is viewed as unsporting to some anglers. I can tell you haven't spent much time throwing it. BTW the rule at the KYKX Big Bass Bonanza about no A-rigs....LMAO! I have no say in the rules at KYKX. I just weigh 'em!!!
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Re: The A-rig, why so many haters?
[Re: Fast Lane]
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06/04/13 04:55 PM
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jwatts77
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My opinion of an umbrella rig is it is a fishing lure designed primarily from commercial saltwater fishing; modified for bass fishing in freshwater.
Taking into consideration the commercial saltwater application to catch as many fish as possible for commercial sale, the umbrella rig has a stigma about it that it is a "no talent" bait. Throw it out, let it go to the depth desired, and reel/troll; not like using one lure to entice a fish to strike a presentation you manipulate to get the bite.
In other words, the "haters" want to compete in a forum where, "I put my skill up against yours". Not against a technique that takes almost no skill and catches multiple fish (even a limit) in one throw. When viewed with the stigma of saltwater application, simple cast & reel non-manipulation, and multi-fish catches; the umbrella rig is viewed as unsporting to some anglers. There is much more to it than simply casting it out and reeling it straight in. How you retrieve it makes a big difference. I know this and you know this but the "haters" views are theirs plus if you notice I used the word "almost"!
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