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popping cork technique help #8961056 05/22/13 10:21 PM
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I have used popping cork many time in the surf, in the bay, ICW and jetties using live and artificial shrimps like berkley GULP and DOA but no luck. Here's what I do, cast it then rattle/pop it by jerking the rod upward to make noise every 6-10 min. Is there any other technique to do this? Thanks.

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Check out the thunder chicken popping cork. Its made by my friend Capt. Mark Nobles of St Simons island Georgia. It casts way better than traditional popping corks.

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Cajun Thunder and pop the cork a few times about every 1-1.5 minutes. Try to increase the action at the cork. Try live shrimp on hook.

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Pop the cork every 7 seconds, you should get some results. What the cork is doing is mimicking the sound a trout makes when he gulps food that is on the surface. With constant poping other fish will thinks its feeding time. Live shrimp is best. Be sure you have a crimp on small weight about 8 inches from the shrimp.


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I always thought it was meant to imitate the popping of a live shrimp . Sticking to my day job and hope to get lucky once in a while on the water


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I like the "pop pop swoosh". The pops are imitating surface hits and the swoosh imitates a trout boiling to get its prey.


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I think the beads on a rattler or inside the float are supposed to sound like shrimp snapping their tail.


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Originally Posted By: timawa
I have used popping cork many time in the surf, in the bay, ICW and jetties using live and artificial shrimps like berkley GULP and DOA but no luck. Here's what I do, cast it then rattle/pop it by jerking the rod upward to make noise every 6-10 min. Is there any other technique to do this? Thanks.


What brand of popping cork? I usually double pop about every 15 to 20 seconds. Using braided line it takes little effort to make it pop right.

We use Alameda's due to the rattle it makes, as mentioned it sounds like shrimp snapping their tails, and the gurgling sounds like a trout feeding.

My thought is that our fishing where there are not fish more than anything else. Using shrimp, Gulp, and DOA's under a popping cork should get you strikes.

How deep is the water your fishing, and how deep a leader are you using?



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Originally Posted By: timawa
I have used popping cork many time in the surf, in the bay, ICW and jetties using live and artificial shrimps like berkley GULP and DOA but no luck. Here's what I do, cast it then rattle/pop it by jerking the rod upward to make noise every 6-10 min. Is there any other technique to do this? Thanks.


What brand of popping cork? I usually double pop about every 15 to 20 seconds. Using braided line it takes little effort to make it pop right.

We use Alameda's due to the rattle it makes, as mentioned it sounds like shrimp snapping their tails, and the gurgling sounds like a trout feeding.

My thought is that our fishing where there are not fish more than anything else. Using shrimp, Gulp, and DOA's under a popping cork should get you strikes.

How deep is the water your fishing, and how deep a leader are you using?


I use the one from ACA.... with green plastic float I think it's cajun popping cork if im not mistaken.

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Originally Posted By: timawa
Here's what I do, cast it then rattle/pop it by jerking the rod upward to make noise every 6-10 min. Is there any other technique to do this? Thanks.


It might be a small thing, but I've always jerked the rod down or to the side kind of on a slack line similar to walking the dog for a couple of jerks but harder. If you're pulling up the cork might not be digging into the water enough and might not be giving the full effect.

Also as others said pop it much more often - several times a minute. If you get someone's attention and then stop popping for minutes at a time, they can't home in on it.

Just something to try.

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There is an article about the "Rattling or Popping Cork" - let me see if I can find it.

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THE ALAMEDA RATTLER: Tips to rig it and use it.

By Capt. Rex Harrison Hoyt

The Alameda Rattler, reddish orange top/green bottom (and even the reddish orange top/black bottom in the real cold of winter) has proven itself to be a very effective cork/float. Whatever you choose to call it - cork or float, it is very effective for catching trout, redfish, flounder, drum, shark, etc. It has some advantages that other corks dont have. Rigged and used properly it can be used year round with live shrimp, recently alive shrimp, fin fish or soft plastic lures. So here are some tips on how to rig it and how to use it.

Using a SPRO #8 barrel swivel ( http://www.spro.com/swivels.htm ) a very small swivel for its size- but its 50 lb. test., from the bottom of the swivel with leader attached slip the leader through the top clasp and pull it tight. The SPRO#8 swivel has less play or give to it, thus giving you a quicker feel when the fish bites. If its a trout when they feel that hook they can spit the bait quick, so you better set that hook quick, this is where the SPRO #8 swivel helps in that regard as it gives you a quicker feel on the bite.

After you tie your knot on the swivel, hold your line tight against the swivel at the top of the Alameda Rattler and pull your leader through the top clasp on the top stem. Wrap your leader 3 times around the top stem, up to five if you can, and pull your leader through the long slit on the side of it down to the bottom of the slit. Hold your thumb in the bottom of the slit just above the bottom stem preventing your leader from coming out the slit, and wrap it 3 times around the bottom stem, slip your leader through the bottom clasp and your set to set the length of your leader.

I use at least five wraps on the top stem and 3 wraps around the bottom stem of the 3 1/2" Alameda Rattlers. Using five wraps or more takes some skill. However, youll have extra line to lower your depth and/or cut off an inch or so of leader above your hook because of line fray from so many game fish bites. Thus, you will be able to maintain the proper length of your leader when clipping the frayed area next to your hook from trout and red bites. Just retie your hook and cut off an inch of leader due to teeth abrasions from game fish on bites on the leader near the hook. You can unwrap a bit on either the top or bottom stem of the Al. Rattler to keep the length the same after you clip the frayed leader when you retie your the hook.

Length of leader: as a rule of thumb, 20 -22" of leader is sufficient to work 2 - 6 ft. of water. However, I make some for the real skinny water I fish, with only 16- 18 inches of leader to switch to on an as needed basis when fishing 1 2 ft of SaltH20 for reds and flounder.

Having the skill to use this wrap method also will allow you to change from the 3 1/2 Al. Rattler in 2 6 ft. depths, to the 4 or 4 A. Rattler when working shell depths over 6 ft. plus quick. When using the Alameda Rattling Cork I fish 98% of the time with the 3 Al. Rattler because its sound is just right and it is not to big and wont spook a fish when it lands on top of the water in shallow water. However, the difference in size does matter for deeper water 6 ft. or over that you are fishing.

I also like to take off the Al. Rattler and free line for reds and flounder underneath the trout or when fishing passes with good current. Consequently, if you can use the wrap method, just take youre Alameda Rattler off and free lineor just wrap it back on and go up top for trout. In the event you are wade fishing, the wrap method is important as it will allow you to free line guts with good current or use the Alameda Rattler to work the grasslines next to the gut and work your bait/lure as you see fit against the shoreline.

The bbs in the A. Rattler imitates the sound of shrimp migrating in the water. Pop it often, keep the slack out of your line and don't be afraid to make some noise with it. That's what the concave top is for. It is to help this cork/float to make a sound like a trout hitting the top of the water feeding when you "pop" it. So you have two things attracting the fish, the sound of shrimp from the bbs and the sound of trout feeding by making a whoosh noise on top of the SaltH20 with the concave top it. It will attract the fish!

In fact, when I first throw it out, I pop it three times in a row to try and imitate a mullet skipping across the water likes its being chased by a big fish. If a mullet is being chased by game fish, you can usually count on at least three skips out of the water by the mullet, so I try and duplicate that nature scene with my initial cast. Then after your initial three pops, pop it at regular or irregular intervals, depending on the clarity of the water. Muddy water youll find that it needs a steady pop. Trout green water, its a variable pop,..let it sitjiggle..popsit them BAMMM!!! you get a hit. Or it could be 5 seconds pop, 10 seconds pop, 5 seconds pop 15 seconds pop 8 seconds pop and so onand then, pay attention to what rhythm the trout are attracted to at that locationand stick with whats working.

If your in shallow water or see a fish working close to your Al. Rattler, just jiggle it a bit, instead of popping it and tease the game fish, thats another effective use of the Alameda Rattler. Once you get this technique down you fishing production will increase. All it takes is confidence and knowing where the fish are!!

As far as leader there are two types. An inexpensive leader I use is 40 lb. Stren clear mono for leader. When you pop your Alameda Rattler it makes your shrimp come to the surface and then drop down. The 40 lb. mono gives you more buoyancy and the shrimp falls at a slower rate than with 20 lb. leader, thus giving the trout a better shot at your bait. A bit more expensive, but more durable against fray from gamefish teeth and less visible in the water that I am also use is Seaguar 20 lb. Fluorocarbon leader ( http://www.seaguar.com/home.html ). I am using it with good success and it doesnt fray as quick from trout and reds teeth. When the bite is on strong and steady for most of the day, especially during the fall and spring; and, your catching lots of fish, most leader will get frayed quick. In the event you hook into the trout or red of your lifetime during steady action for the better part of a days fishing, then during the latter part of your days fishing you may need or wish you had that extra durability and strength of the 40 lb. Stren clear mono or at least 20# Seaguar Fluorocarbon leader.

The Alameda Rattler is effective with live shrimp or recently alive shrimp over grass and shell. The A. Rattler is also effective with live pin or piggy perch rigged using single/circle hooks underneath it in deep shell or around deep shell pads around wells.

Using Tidal Surge split tail soft plastics, Texas Trout Killers or touts underneath the Al. Rattler is effective in the fall and winter if youre a lures only type of angler. The SW Bass Assassin soft plastic floats, so on a Rockport Rattler XMAX its sinks real slow, and is just that much more lethal.

The Alameda Rattler has a patent number on top, so make sure that this patent number is present when you make your purchase. Some Academys may put other brands of imitation "rattlers" in the bin with the Alameda Rattlers, so watch out for that. Wal-Mart carries the Alameda Rattlers and keeps them in a separate bin, to the best of my knowledge. The other brands of rattlers will take on water quick, and youll have to replace it due to its sinking and not making the right noise since the bbs inside will be floating in water. If your rattler has water in it the bbs in it wont have the right rattling sound needed to attract the fish like the patented Alameda Rattler so change it. Believe me, little things do make a difference, especially when the catching is tough or slow. Thats why I like the Alameda Rattler.

Just think of the Alameda Rattler as a top water lure with a shrimp/soft plastic trailing it. Both rattling top waters and rattling corks with shrimp/lures underneath are effective for attracting trout, and big ones at that. Thats because trout and reds can hear. But, thats another article.

With the Alameda Rattler making noise up top and with a live shrimp or pinfish, or a slow sinking soft plastic underneath it, then you have the best of both worlds and your fishing will be catching.....year round!

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Originally Posted By: Fritz423
I like the "pop pop swoosh". The pops are imitating surface hits and the swoosh imitates a trout boiling to get its prey.


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find that this catches more fish,especially with flutter hooked plastics


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I'm having a horrible time wrapping my head around his description of how to rig this up. Anyone have a diagram?


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