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Re: Fishing for Sand Bass in a Jon Boat??? [Re: Bradyfisherman4] #8908495 05/08/13 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: Bradyfisherman4
Thanks for these but if I were to fish for sand bass on Lake Ray Hubbard and Lake Lavon where should I launch the jon boat at?


Depends on the wind, and where you want to fish. I run a 16' shallow V aluminum skiff with a 25hp two smoke, Elite 4 DSI sonar, and 55# powerdrive V2 ipilot. With 2 people, gear and a full tank of gas, I top out about 27mph and cruise comfortably at 20 burning a sensible amount of fuel. Even at that pace, Its a long run from I30 to the south end of the lake. A 2ft chop isnt too bad, but depending which way you're running, it can be a wet ride. 3ft is a pounding and a soaker.

Im still pretty new to fishing hubbard, but the one thing I have learned is that it can be a "run and gun" game. It helps to be able to cover alot of water quickly to find fish, and if you havent noticed, the wind tends to, um, blow. Literally and figuratively. Even with my boat I find myself wishing for a bigger/faster boat. You'd be better suited to wait, save, and find a 14' V hull with a 20-30hp outboard. It can blow up in a hurry out there, and trying to get to safety in a jon boat with low freeboard and only an electric motor would make me nervous, no matter where I launched from. I'd hate to see you on the evening news.


Re: Fishing for Sand Bass in a Jon Boat??? [Re: MtnDew] #8908520 05/08/13 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: MtnDew
My short answer is: Fishing Sandies/Hybrids, generally puts you out in the open lake. You can but you need to watch the wind forecast closely. You will need the discipline to not get, to far away from your launch point. If you only have an electric trolling motor, you may find that if the wind picks up you may not have the power to fight the wind and waves.

You do not need a super expensive sonar. A basic 2d Sonar with GPS will do the trick. Get a drift sock and a good anchor with plenty of rope. You just won't be able to run all over looking for the fish.


The long answer :
I am fishing from a small 14' tin boat with 15hp outboard and 55# TM. With 2 adults and gear, my TM only pushes me at 3-3.5 mph on smooth water. Fighting wind and waves slows me down to about 2 -2.5 mph. Hubbard from I-30 to the Dam is a long ride at 3mph. My outboard will only push me around 16-17mph, but that gets real rough in big waves.

Concering Safety/Comfort:
My boat is a semi-v and has higher sides then most 3 seat tin boats and I suspect higher sides, then most jon boats I looked at. To compare, my sides are equal to a 20" transom, as my transom is cut down 5" to fit a short shaft outboard. Most jon boats the transom is the same height as all the sides and things are much closer to the water.

You will be very surprised at how large the waves can build up, especially with a south wind at 12-15mph, blowing the length of the lake. More then once I had a wave hit my stern and went over the lower portion by the motor. Of course I try to keep the bow into the waves, but when fighting a hybrid, it gets hard to run the boat and rod, so more than once the wind has blown me around and rocked us pretty good.

I have been out in 15mph with gusts upto 20mph and it was very nerve racking and almost impossible to fish from my boat. I can plow thru the waves with my V hull, but trying to hold still and fish is futile.

The other problem I hit recently, was the Larger Cabin cruisers & wakeboard boats on Hubbard throwing larger wakes then a 20mph wind.

My Personal Opinion: I spent months hunting for a higher side v-hull instead a jon boat, just so I could target the hybrids out in the middle of the lake. I would not want a flat bottom, low sided jon boat for open lake fishing unless the wind was flat. The only thing I would change is maybe spending less on my Sonar, give up side imaging and spend it on a used I-PILOT TM.


SUMMARY We all have personal limits on budget, garage size, tow vehicle etc. You can fish from any boat, and it is always better to be in the boat than on the bank. You just need to understand the limits of your equipment. On windy days, I fish different lakes or stay on the protected side and target other types of fish.







X2 great advice Rob


Re: Fishing for Sand Bass in a Jon Boat??? [Re: Bradyfisherman4] #8910163 05/08/13 03:47 PM
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I've caught more sandies & hybrids from a jon boat than any other boat I've fished. They're good for crappie, too.

Re: Fishing for Sand Bass in a Jon Boat??? [Re: Bradyfisherman4] #8910231 05/08/13 04:02 PM
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Hi Brady,

Just curious if there was a reason you were getting jon boat with only a trolling motor ?


Also you never mentioned the size .. we are just assuming with only a trolling motor you are talking 12 - 14' and only 36 - 48" width. But I could be assuming wrong, I have seen some huge jon boats.

Another good site with tons of info on small boats is tinboats.net. Lots of small boat owners on there with tons of good info.


I think you can have tons of good fishing from a small jon boat, but you may want to target crappie or black bass in protected coves and smaller lakes.

I know kayakers that catch sandies and hybrids, but you would need to take more of their approach to fishing. Read up on the kayak form to see where they are putting etc.

Although being a kayaker myself, I actually feel safer sometimes in my kayak, because it self bails itself , I am the motor so less stuff to break etc.

Anyway, good luck.


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Re: Fishing for Sand Bass in a Jon Boat??? [Re: Bradyfisherman4] #8913480 05/09/13 11:43 AM
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Always check the weather.... if the wind is over 10 on hubbard it could be bad news if your stuck out in the middle of the lake...

Re: Fishing for Sand Bass in a Jon Boat??? [Re: Bradyfisherman4] #8914532 05/09/13 04:11 PM
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Yes, you will need electronics to find old submerged roads. All Texas Lake except one, are man made. The proper term is reservoir, not lake. When they were created they submerged everything that had been there. This includes roads, bridges, houses, foundations, etc... All of these structures can hold shad and in turn can attract whites/hybrids. A fish finder is required to locate these structures and to see if they are holding any fish.

Re: Fishing for Sand Bass in a Jon Boat??? [Re: Bradyfisherman4] #8914587 05/09/13 04:23 PM
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I have a 10' Jon. I installed flush mount seats, sonar & an aerated bait well. I run a 55lb thrust TM. It's not fast but I can throw it in the back of my truck & launch pretty much anywhere. I mainly stay in the area I launch & really keep an eye on weather reports, especial wind. I wiould put in at Robertsons Point & fish it & the peanut or put in at the Heath ramp & fish from there south to three fingers. Balance your boat properly with battery, persons & gear & KNOW the wind. It's also a very handy boat to have for staging crappie! Have fun & be careful!


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Re: Fishing for Sand Bass in a Jon Boat??? [Re: Bradyfisherman4] #8917405 05/10/13 04:21 AM
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As most people have mentioned, and should be your driving force in your decision is safety. Texas Lakes a dn Texas Weather can be very unpredictable. I've been In beautiful weather that turned in a flash.

If you get a small boat, have the discipline to stay close to land/shoreline. I would not go out into the middle of The lake in a small boat on medium and high wind days.

Just be careful. You may have more success and get more fish in the future if you practice patience now and wait until you can get something a little bigger..... If you really want to go running the wide open Texas lakes.


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