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flippin and pitching
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01/27/13 05:24 PM
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Brighton
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So I was at APT show yesterday and talked with the guys from Ardent reels. They had a reel specifically for flippin there in their line up. I would like to get more into this style of fishing but I have not really tried it. It makes sense that having a rod dedicated to this style of fishing would be best much like having a cranking rod. But..... I was wondering if you guys have thoughts about a rod/reel set up you recommend to not only learn how to do this, also to last a while with the beating that heavy pitching and flipping can inflict on equipment.
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Re: flippin and pitching
[Re: Brighton]
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01/27/13 06:43 PM
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The Thorpedo
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I've been practicing pitching while seated its tough haha. Most of mine are more side armed lobbed but that'll change when i get a standing yak. As far as those reels go, they make scence but I've never had an issue with any plain baitcaster set up correctly. I could see rod length and stiffness being more important
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Re: flippin and pitching
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01/27/13 08:02 PM
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mkdm
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I like the idea of pitching/ flipping, however, do any of you who yak p/f in a seated position, and if so, is there a technique used to do it. I only do it from a bass boat... Sounds like Torpedo goes side arm with a lob... Baitcaster? Spinning reel?
If you know of an old Dagger Bayou 2 tandem kayak I am interested.
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Re: flippin and pitching
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01/27/13 08:49 PM
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benhood
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From my kayak I can't pitch or flip very well. My seat sits low and is not adjustable. Wonder if the Jackson or the Native seats from the higher position will allow you to do a better job of it? And I really want to hit a couple of good looking Punch Rig cover spots (thick with lilly pads and vegetation) this summer but that too would be tough from sitting position. I still love to pitch/flip jigs though, so looks like I will need to be upgrading! Getting real interested in those Nutech NuJigs (discussed on TFF and elsewhere) for extreme heavy cover and hook set.
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Re: flippin and pitching
[Re: Brighton]
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01/27/13 08:58 PM
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bert
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I am fairly sure I could do it sitting down but would get neither the distance or accuracy without a lot of practice.
Bert
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Re: flippin and pitching
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01/27/13 09:15 PM
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Bass Art
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I pitch and flip from my boat with either hand with good accuracy. I've done it for years and made myself do it with my off hand because of a bout of tendonitis.
You can't flip really from a seated position, but you can do a sidearm pitch which I do frequently when working boat docks. A reel with centrifugal cast control seems to work better than a reel with magnetic cast control-it lets the spool accelerate more quickly.
As far as a rod, I see guys with 90"-96" rods made for flipping, but most of them aren't really tall enough to handle the rod length. I'm 6'4", and I just use a 7' hvy rod. I never felt the need for anything longer. And for pitching, I will use a 7' med to med-hvy unless I'm throwing a heavy jig or punching grass with a 3/4-1 oz weight.
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Re: flippin and pitching
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01/27/13 09:41 PM
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Robbie Milam
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I do it all the time and all it takes is practice. If you like that reel then get it but its not necessary.
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Re: flippin and pitching
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01/27/13 11:09 PM
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pelican
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Does pitching a fit and flipping off Jet Fleas with either hand while seated count for anything? I suck at trying to pitch or flip a jig from the yak!
 I've never been good, But I've been Lucky! I don't Lie or Exaggerate, but sometimes I remember BIG!
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01/28/13 12:27 AM
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Jerry Hamon
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I used to be pretty good at p/f from the yak. I've been fly fishing for about 6 years so I'm going to have to practice to see if I still can. The nice thing about p/f from a yak is you can ease in pretty close so distance is not a huge factor. I'll now have the high seat advantage so I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of difference that makes.
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Re: flippin and pitching
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01/28/13 12:28 AM
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Yak FinAddic
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im interested in the nu jigs as well. does anyone carry them locally?
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Re: flippin and pitching
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01/28/13 12:51 AM
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benhood
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I don't see anywhere to get those NuTech jigs other than his website ( www.NuTechlures.com ) so I am going to bite the bullit and order some (yes I am a tackle-addict, aint afraid to tell the wife either!). Looks like several folks around here have ordered some but haven't heard of any results, but they are pretty new. I can hang a jig on a splinter - or that seems to be my luck so looking forward to testing out how weedless, snagless these are.
Benny Hood SEMPER FIshing
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Re: flippin and pitching
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01/28/13 03:24 AM
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H.Town_paddler
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I almost never flip from a kayak OR boat. Not sure why. But I would just rather pitch. I pitch a lot from my kayak and I suggest a heavy/fast rod. The reason I like this set up is I'm usually pitching into some sort of cover and I want to really control the fish and not let it get wrapped up. If it dives into grass or gets wrapped around a crossbar on a dock I want enough backbone to pull it out. As for a reel I want something fast like a 7.1:1 reel so I can recover line in a hurry. From a kayak fishing perspective this is the reason I like a kayak I can stand up on comfortably. I can pitch a lot easier standing than sitting. Hope this helps.
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