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A-Rig problem #7853268 08/07/12 10:19 PM
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Anyone else have problems with their A-rig tangling on the cast? Seems like every cast it flips somehow and the line wraps around the head. Don't know what I'm doing wrong...



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Re: A-Rig problem [Re: Bassboy50] #7853284 08/07/12 10:23 PM
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Never.

First off, what's your set-up? Rod (weight and action) length, reel, line. Anything between your knot and the line-tie on the head of the rig?

Secondly, what type of casting motion are you employing? If everything in number 1 is good, number two (technique) is the logical explanation. It's a lob cast motion. Once you gain a little confidence with that, you can refine the cast. A little faster, harder and flatter trajectory.

p.s. - you don't have to cast it at all if the fish are suspended deep and tolerant of tm noise



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Re: A-Rig problem [Re: Bassboy50] #7853307 08/07/12 10:32 PM
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Heavy action, six and a half foot, 20 lb. big game. I've tried different set ups and different casting but it still "turns" on me. Lobbing seems to lessen it happening but it still does often. Want to try them on docks for suspended bass but I've gotta figure this turning problem out...



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Re: A-Rig problem [Re: Bassboy50] #7853313 08/07/12 10:33 PM
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ya!u need to trim the wires


Re: A-Rig problem [Re: fouzman] #7853322 08/07/12 10:36 PM
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Might be able to help here.....I've never thrown an A-rig but I used to have the same problem with lipless crank baits. Pay attention to the A-rig as it sails through the air with the line, more than likely it is doing exactly what a ratl-trap does, the end of the line will sail slightly past the lure forming a J shape, a lot of times when the lure falls to the water it will litterally land on top of the line because it is falling to the water beside it, or over it. The cure for this is to pay attention to what the line and lure are doing just before they make contact with the water, if you see what I have described, putting your thumb on the spool of the reel and stopping it from turning when the lure is about a foot over the water will cause the lure to fly past the line, straightening everything out and the lure lands behind the line everytime. You can also use this technique to quieten your lures entry into the water once you've mastered it.... 2cents


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Re: A-Rig problem [Re: Bassboy50] #7853329 08/07/12 10:37 PM
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U need a longer rod like 7'6" and some braid



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Re: A-Rig problem [Re: Bassboy50] #7853347 08/07/12 10:42 PM
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Bb, wrong rod, wrong line bro. You didn't mention the reel?

I'd stick to single, more natural swimbait presentations around docks. For two reasons. First, you can put the bait where it needs to be. Secondly, bass and other predators like to separate their prey from the school. In open water, that means 3-6 of a thousand. Under and around docks...you get the point.

If you'd like to fish the ARig, you'll need a 7.5-8 foot rod with at least an XH blank. XX would be good if you're throwing larger baits on heavier heads/hooks. You'll need a moderate-fast tip, or action. I throw mine on 65lb. braid, but most of my comrades throw them on 80 so they don't have to retie as much. Finally, you need the strongest and fastest reel you can afford. It takes speed to keep a 3-10 oz. "lure" on plane, no matter the depth.



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Bend the wires out more so they are spread further apart from each other



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Re: A-Rig problem [Re: Bassboy50] #7853466 08/07/12 11:23 PM
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Just tighten your reel tension or slow the spool with your thumb.


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Fouzman,all good points for the A-rig but will the heavier rod, braided line and faster reel fix my turning problem? What's happening Ogles is that the bait is twisting in air. I've watched it. I think it is in the casting. Looks like a lob is the only way to keep it from turning. Definitely need a longer, heavier rod if I'm going to fish one much. Haven't really found the right time and place for one yet. Thanks all.



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Yes, I think the spool is too loose because shorter, more controlled casts don't turn.



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I've found the ones with a tin or plastic head won't turn in the air. The ones with a lead head will turn in the air sometimes.


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Originally Posted By: fouzman
Bb, wrong rod, wrong line bro. You didn't mention the reel?

I'd stick to single, more natural swimbait presentations around docks. For two reasons. First, you can put the bait where it needs to be. Secondly, bass and other predators like to separate their prey from the school. In open water, that means 3-6 of a thousand. Under and around docks...you get the point.

If you'd like to fish the ARig, you'll need a 7.5-8 foot rod with at least an XH blank. XX would be good if you're throwing larger baits on heavier heads/hooks. You'll need a moderate-fast tip, or action. I throw mine on 65lb. braid, but most of my comrades throw them on 80 so they don't have to retie as much. Finally, you need thMe strongest and fastest reel you can afford. It takes speed to keep a 3-10 oz. "lure" on plane, no matter the depth.


Fouzman is 100% correct. I use a 7'9" Broom Stick. Mojo Bass Extra Heavy Swimbait Rod. Perfect for,the A-Rig. And always use braid, the heavier the better. As for the casting technique, lob it as far as you can in a smooth motion, then just before it hits the water, engage the reel. This will snap the A Rig into the right position for retrieval, but be gentle on the reel, that's a lot of weight your are throwing out there.



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Originally Posted By: ChanceHuiet (quackills05)
U need a longer rod like 7'6" and some braid


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