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Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/20/12 04:08 PM
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PerchTrout
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Here is the scenario...I am fishing a pond with MONSTER carp. I have been fishing with corn there for about 6 times straight. Right now I would say the carp to catfish ratio is 1 to 200. This is no joke either! And the catfish are TINY!!! I am extremely frustrated. Never had this problem anywhere before. I have caught cats on corn before, but never this bad. Its like fishing for reds and just slaying hardheads haha. I don't want to wait for bolies to come in. I would like if someone could throw out some suggestions that I can use today! Haha. Thanks in advance!
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/20/12 05:23 PM
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PerchTrout
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I really didn't make that clear enough...I am sorry. I wants something that carp will bite and catfish will not!!!! I don't think the carp have time to find it because of the overpopulation of bullheads.
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/20/12 05:26 PM
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Cyprinus
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Once the water warms theres not a whole lot you can do. Bullhead will absolutely rape a pond late spring through fall if they are present. You could try using something like tiger nuts, which will still catch some cats, but nothing like corn or bread or any of the other carp standbys.
Honestly, once the catfish and turtle scourge starts around this time of year I tend to avoid ponds until around October.
Ben
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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#7550499
05/20/12 05:34 PM
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Cyprinus
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Another suggestion is to ask around and see if you can find a pond with some big flathead in it. I only know of a few ponds that are bullhead free and they all have one thing in common...big flatties.
Ben
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/20/12 05:41 PM
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PerchTrout
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Hey man thanks for the advice. I isn't what I was hoping for lol, but it is good honest advice. What are Tiger nuts??
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/20/12 05:57 PM
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Cyprinus
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Tiger nuts are the tubers (not true nuts) from the tigernut sedge plant. They are very popular for carp both in europe and the u.s.
They can be bought from some feed stores where they are sold as chuffa turkey feed. Beware they are pricey in bulk though so I buy smaller amounts from online carp tackle dealers. Unless they are pre prepared they must be boiled for around a half hour to make them not harmful to the fish and to soften them up enough to get on a hair rig. They probably won't work too well directly on a hook as they are still pretty hard after boiling.
Maybe not something to consider unless you're interested in exploring the european carp fishing methods. If you are, check out the sticky thread at the top of this forum, theres a lot of info there to get you started.
Ben
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/20/12 05:59 PM
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PerchTrout
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Thanks alot, bud! I really appreciate it.
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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#7550551
05/20/12 06:01 PM
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Keith_Thompson
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Flavor your corn with something the catfish don't like. Try pineapple, banana, anise or vanilla
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/20/12 06:02 PM
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Keith_Thompson
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You can get all of these flavor in the grocery store, cooking or cake making aisles
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/20/12 07:04 PM
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buffaloman chris
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iv had some luck with very spicy stuff. i dont think the kittys like hot stuff. might try soaking some sweet corn in some hot sause.
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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#7550761
05/20/12 07:26 PM
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dturnerfish
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Using Artificial baits helps some, more with turtles than cats.
Or bring chad with you, all the cats will go to his lines.
Last edited by dturnerfish; 05/20/12 07:27 PM.
I tend to over think fishing. Please help me. When I am over complicating something please kick me in the face. Hard.
DT
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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#7550763
05/20/12 07:26 PM
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Big Ted
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just use bread and a ton of chili powder, ball up
PB Common Carp....... 38 lbs PB Mirror Carp........12 lbs 8 oz PB SM Buffalo........ 53 lbs PB Grasser........... 48 lbs 4 oz PB Blue cat.......... 17 lbs (caught on maize)
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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#7551130
05/20/12 09:53 PM
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greentumater
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Keith is right about sweet flavored corn.We use pineappple and sweet flavored corn and have caught about a hundred carp and buff and zeerro catfish.
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/22/12 08:06 AM
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Catfish-hunter
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Thanks for the tip. I'll have to start baiting my trotlines with corn. Seriously what ever happened to bran flakes and big red? Maybe a splash of Adams vanilla.Thats all I used as a kid. You can tell I don't target carp anymore. Have to try again with my kids.
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Re: Big Help Needed...quick please
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05/22/12 12:19 PM
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Big Ted
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the wheaties and big red will catch cats as well. we try to not use treble hooks as carp fight REALLY hard and could break your line if you are not used to fighting them. the treble hook can and will hurt the fish
PB Common Carp....... 38 lbs PB Mirror Carp........12 lbs 8 oz PB SM Buffalo........ 53 lbs PB Grasser........... 48 lbs 4 oz PB Blue cat.......... 17 lbs (caught on maize)
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