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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/07/12 10:35 PM
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Run the engine about five minutes on the hose/earmuffs. Shut down and feel the spark plugs, You can tell by the temperature of the plugs if each cylinder is fireing. You probably have either float needle stuck in some of the carbs or they need cleaning. b
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
[Re: jbaseball33]
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05/07/12 10:49 PM
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snmcc
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The bulb should not stay hard.
 Boatless for minute
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 12:00 AM
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TLW
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Pumpin' tha bulb and get a increase in rpm indicates ya still got a fuel problem. More than likely what was said 'bout tha fuel pump. Could be floats but I would go with tha pump first........jmo
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
[Re: jbaseball33]
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05/08/12 01:45 AM
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My new best friend Stephan the mobile mechanic is gonna take her under his wing and make her purr like a kitten again(I hope).
FYI spent the last 4 hours sucking 25 gallons of gas out it was pretty dark kinda like a dark sam adams. will do fuel pump tomorrow
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 02:17 AM
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Sounds like you only running on 3 or possible 4 If you have lost fire to 3 holes on the same side its going to be a switchbox and if you has lost fire to 2 holes one on each back its going to be a trigger. But like I said it sounds like it is not firing on all cylinders.Need to have the ignition checked.....OPTI
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 02:20 AM
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No Bass!!!!
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Let us know what you find.
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 02:27 AM
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That doesn't sound cheap Sounds like you only running on 3 or possible 4 If you have lost fire to 3 holes on the same side its going to be a switchbox and if you has lost fire to 2 holes one on each back its going to be a trigger. But like I said it sounds like it is not firing on all cylinders.Need to have the ignition checked.....OPTI
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 02:33 AM
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Your looking at around 2hrs labor and if is a switchbox.A couple of years ago the box was around 300 and if it is the trigger it's around 200. I would find some that knows this system and knows how to diagnoise it and not a aka parts changer....OPTI
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 02:50 AM
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i FOUND THIS INFO
No fire or Intermittent on One or More Cylinders: Note: If two cylinders on separate packs are not firing, check the trigger as described in # 1 below. The trigger has three coils firing six cylinders. #1 and 4 share a trigger coil, 2 and 5 share a trigger coil and 3 and 6 share a trigger coil. 1. Connect a spark gap tester and verify which cylinders are misfiring. If the cylinders are only misfiring above an idle, connect an inductive Tachometer to all cylinders and try to isolate the problem cylinders. 2. Check the trigger resistance and DVA output as shown below: BLACK SLEEVE TO YELLOW SLEEVE Resistance DVA Reading Brown wire White wire 800-1400 4V or more Connected White wire Purple wire 800-1400 4V or more Connected Purple wire Brown wire 800-1400 4V or more Connected Brown wire Engine Ground Open 1 V or more Connected White wire Engine Ground Open 1 V or more Connected Purple wire Engine Ground Open 1 V or more Connected Engine Ground Brown wire Open 1 V or more Connected Engine Ground White wire Open 1 V or more Connected Engine Ground Purple wire Open 1 V or more Connected
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 03:08 AM
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yep just replaced with a plastic type filter, gonna put a glass filter on later on do yourself a favor and forget the glass filter they can crack if they take a hard hit
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 01:18 PM
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when it sounds like its going to die try bumping the key in to give it a short blast of fuel if it picks up you have a fuel delivery problem most likley in the carbs
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 06:00 PM
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dropped it off at the experts today, gotta get back to work. Did notice that coming from the heads is a fitting with 2 spots for tubing only 1 line is connected (fuel line) the other is not, also on the oil tank that's mounted to the motor is a 3way that only have 2 lines, is that correct? or should the oil tank be connected to the head for vacuum
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 08:05 PM
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 09:33 PM
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dropped it off at the experts today, gotta get back to work. Did notice that coming from the heads is a fitting with 2 spots for tubing only 1 line is connected (fuel line) the other is not, also on the oil tank that's mounted to the motor is a 3way that only have 2 lines, is that correct? or should the oil tank be connected to the head for vacuum Sounds like a good idea, with a 2 stroke and fuel issues things can get nasty fast, add onto it that it may not be cooling correctly and the mess gets bigger. If your going to work on it yourself investing in a good service manual is money well spent. matt
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Re: Motor issues, help needed
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05/08/12 10:08 PM
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Amen!!! Redchevy is exactly correct!
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