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Re: Snake Question
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05/05/12 03:20 PM
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Stuff the crappie with the snake and eat that, mmm mmm good!
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Re: Snake Question
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05/05/12 03:31 PM
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Stuff the crappie with the snake and eat that, mmm mmm good! We have a winner!
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Re: Snake Question
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05/05/12 10:23 PM
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cypher_orange
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I hear eating a little venom is like downing a 32 pack of brews in one gulp! Get yourself a designated driver hold on and have fun!
Disclaimer : Snake venom is neither an intoxicant nor consumable...for external use only.
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Re: Snake Question
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05/05/12 10:30 PM
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karnavor2
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pretty common when i was a kid, we would just tie the stringer on the boat untill we were read to clean them, almost every time, there were fish eaten..throw the ones away that were eaten on, and keep the rest... by the way, if a snake is in the water, 99 percent of the time its a moccasin
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Re: Snake Question
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05/06/12 01:26 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback, guys.
The reason we didn't just throw the one back is because I was not exactly 100% for sure of which fish it had. We had somewhere around 20 on and I knew it was one of the bottom 3 fish.
After that happened once, I went and through the cast net and a guy hollared at me and said a snake was eating our crappie again...the man said it was one of the bottom 3 again, but again, I did not see which one it was...so I cleaned their ones my buddies wanted and the
Last edited by PerchTrout; 05/06/12 01:28 AM.
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Re: Snake Question
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05/06/12 01:28 AM
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Blues
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99 percent really I think that's way off, at least where I'm fishing I see banded water snakes over moccasins 10 to 1 easy. I bet I've seen 100 banded snakes this year and 0 moccasin.
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Re: Snake Question
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05/06/12 01:29 AM
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We cleaned the ones we knew were good and my buddies took the meat. I guess I should say the ones they knew were for sure good.
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Re: Snake Question
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05/06/12 06:11 PM
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SheldonS
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Can snakes really eat part of a fish? I don't think so. Turtles can though.
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Re: Snake Question
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05/06/12 10:46 PM
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randywillfish
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There was an episode of CSI where one guy put snake venom in a car sales rival's coffee cup. It killed him. Autopsy showed the guy had stomach ulcers and got him good...
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Re: Snake Question
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05/06/12 11:11 PM
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WAWI
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Why don't one of you snake professionals try this and get back to us on the results of this.
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Re: Snake Question
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05/06/12 11:24 PM
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Can snakes really eat part of a fish? I don't think so. Turtles can though. Thank you. 
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Re: Snake Question
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05/07/12 12:20 AM
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There was an episode of CSI where one guy put snake venom in a car sales rival's coffee cup. It killed him. Autopsy showed the guy had stomach ulcers and got him good... Now there's a reliable source of medical/toxicology knowledge.
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Re: Snake Question
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05/07/12 05:58 AM
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Pope1
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Unless you plan on eating it raw no problem. Snake venom is a toxin, so cooking it at the temps we cook fish would do nothing to it. That doesn't make sense. There are many substances which are toxic. How can you say heat will not degrade all toxins? Different toxins have different properties. Venom is a protein and heat will destroy or change any protein's properties. An egg is an excellent example. Apply heat and a conformational change occurs changing it from a clear liquid to a white solid. Venom degrades in the fangs of snakes due to oxidation and will certainly degrade in a frying pan. That said, it probably wasn't a cottonmouth and if it were, it wouldn't use its venom to subdue something already subdued. You could also see tissue damage from a venomous bite when you cleaned the fish. No tissue damage, no venom.
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Re: Snake Question
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05/08/12 04:47 PM
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There are two general type of snake poisons but some snakes have a combination of both. One type is a hemotoxin which works through the blood interfering with the blood clotting and destroying tissue. The other type of toxin is a neurotoxin which attacks the nervous system. I know the elapidae family one of which is the cobra, another the coral snake use a neurotoxin in its venom. The cottonmouth you suspect uses the hemotoxin type of poison. I am not sure the denaturization point on the venom but I would recommend not consuming the fish since most of these poisons require an extremely high temp for denaturing... In short DONT DO IT!!! DONT TAKE CHANCE!!!
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Re: Snake Question
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05/08/12 05:35 PM
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McCloud
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Can snakes really eat part of a fish? I don't think so. Turtles can though. Thank you. Agreed...snake MIGHT have had half of the fish in it's mouth, but a snake won't literally chew a fish, they swallow it whole.
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