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Gfci plugs #7325700 03/23/12 05:38 PM
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I have a gfci protected plug in the bathroom and I need to add another gfci with it, double gang I believe it's called. I don't know how to do it exactly. Any help here on the tff?





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Re: Gfci plugs [Re: craigo] #7331768 03/25/12 12:57 PM
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Are they going to be in the same box?
If so do you have a double box in the wall already?
How much experience do you have with electricity?



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Re: Gfci plugs [Re: hadude] #7332027 03/25/12 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: hadude
How much experience do you have with electricity?




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Re: Gfci plugs [Re: craigo] #7332437 03/25/12 04:46 PM
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It's pretty simple to do, more than likely you have a single gang box behind the gfi. You can get the the single gang box out of the wall but it can be a pain. I generally just cut the nails with a key hole saw using a metal blade. Get a 2-gang cut in box and a set of clips to support the box. Install the gfi using the existing wires and then come off the bottom side of the gfi to protect the standard receptacle. That way both are protected. You could have more wires in the box than just one, b/c when the house was built they may be using that gfi to protect others in the bathroom or else where. Not sure without seeing it.

Problem you run into with bathrooms is what do you need all them recepts for. The conductors are prob. only rated for 15 amps and if your wife wants to plug in a hair dryer, curling iron, fan, iphone, flat iron, radio. Then pop there goes the breaker. Hair dryers pull alot of amps. Just b/c you have 4 outlets now doesn't always mean you can run 4 devices. You have to look at the combined calculated load at any given time on the circuit.

If you decide to do it, make sure the power to the recept is turned off, electricity never forgets.

Personally I always discourage people doing this b/c of the water present in bathrooms and the load they think they can put on the recepts. Weather you have 1 recept or 25 you still only have 15 amps dedicated for that circuit. Hopes this helps.



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Originally Posted By: Johnny_J_JaMata
It's pretty simple to do,

but it can be a pain.

Install the gfi using the existing wires and then come off the bottom side of the gfi to protect the standard receptacle. That way both are protected. You could have more wires in the box than just one, b/c when the house was built they may be using that gfi to protect others in the bathroom or else where. Not sure without seeing it. scared

the combined calculated load at any given time on the circuit. noidea

If you decide to do it, make sure the power to the recept is turned off, electricity never forgets. OMG

Personally I always discourage people doing this . Hopes this helps. huh






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Re: Gfci plugs [Re: craigo] #7333296 03/25/12 10:23 PM
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I have just enough experience w/ electricity to get me into trouble, i'd say. I pulled the existing plug and it's in a single box. I was wanting to put a double box in and have both plugs in one box... basically 4 available plugs. I'm rethinking getting any deeper into it though, think I may be a bit over my head.





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Originally Posted By: craigo
I have a gfci protected plug in the bathroom and I need to add another gfci with it, double gang I believe it's called. I don't know how to do it exactly. Any help here on the tff?


I installed a double in my bathroom. It's not hard to do.



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Re: Gfci plugs [Re: craigo] #7336490 03/26/12 05:16 PM
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I think it would be a lot simpler to just get a 3 to 1. They work fine unless you are plugging in things that have more than just a standard plug. Unless you run another circuit adding 2 more outlets will not really gain you anything.



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Originally Posted By: Johnny_J_JaMata
It's pretty simple to do, more than likely you have a single gang box behind the gfi. You can get the the single gang box out of the wall but it can be a pain. I generally just cut the nails with a key hole saw using a metal blade. Get a 2-gang cut in box and a set of clips to support the box. Install the gfi using the existing wires and then come off the bottom side of the gfi to protect the standard receptacle. That way both are protected. You could have more wires in the box than just one, b/c when the house was built they may be using that gfi to protect others in the bathroom or else where. Not sure without seeing it.

Problem you run into with bathrooms is what do you need all them recepts for. The conductors are prob. only rated for 15 amps and if your wife wants to plug in a hair dryer, curling iron, fan, iphone, flat iron, radio. Then pop there goes the breaker. Hair dryers pull alot of amps. Just b/c you have 4 outlets now doesn't always mean you can run 4 devices. You have to look at the combined calculated load at any given time on the circuit.

If you decide to do it, make sure the power to the recept is turned off, electricity never forgets.

Personally I always discourage people doing this b/c of the water present in bathrooms and the load they think they can put on the recepts. Weather you have 1 recept or 25 you still only have 15 amps dedicated for that circuit. Hopes this helps.





I agree with this post. I don't think I would add another outlet to an existing GFCI. Especially given the load that is placed on an outlet by hair care appliances.

We have one in the bathroom that my wife uses. I have replaced it several times in 10 years. She has finally learned that she can't have a blow dryer and curling or straightening iron on at the same time.



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Originally Posted By: Stump jumper
I think it would be a lot simpler to just get a 3 to 1. They work fine unless you are plugging in things that have more than just a standard plug. Unless you run another circuit adding 2 more outlets will not really gain you anything.


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It depends on the amp pull and that depends on the size of wire and the amp load of the GFI.


Re: Gfci plugs [Re: craigo] #7389280 04/09/12 01:18 AM
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Most bathrooms have a 20 amp circuit with a GFI at the beginning of the circuit (line) that protects the rest of the duplexs (load). The problem is that sometimes the GFI will protect two or more bathrooms. This is why your main baths plugs won't work if the GFI is tripped in the master bath. Kinda of like the plugs in the kitchen won't work when the GFI in the garage is tripped.

In older homes alot of them are 15 amp circuits, so you don't have as much "power" to run all the stuff your wife wants to put on it. You can test it by using a power strip. Plug it into your GFI and then plug into the power strip everything your wife wants to run and turn them all on. That should tripped the GFI if it's pulling more amps it is rated to carry.

Try that and post what what happens here and I will try to help you more.


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