Forums59
Topics1,057,908
Posts14,293,205
Members144,616
|
Most Online39,925 Dec 30th, 2023
|
|
Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
#7025123
01/08/12 06:18 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549
817-Fireman
OP
Pro Angler
|
OP
Pro Angler
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549 |
'94 190dc champion w/ '89 evinrude 150xp. The motor is just about plum wore out, the boat is paid for and in great Shape but rated for a 200hp motor. I'm trying to decide on A) get the motor rebuilt and perhaps adding some extra pep to it or, B) just finding a gently used 200hp motor and saying the he'll with it. I'm thinking the rebuild avenue myself due to cost and the fact that it just don't make any sense to me to hang a motor worth more the boat off the back. I'm open to any & all opinions, not quite sure what to do here. I appreciate it gents, thanks!
"People know me, I'm very important....I have many leather-bound books and my Guild hall smells of rich mahagony"
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7025330
01/08/12 07:13 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 926
Gary Pender
Pro Angler
|
Pro Angler
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 926 |
If the motor is not damaged I would just re ring it, put new bearings and gaskets and go. This would be the most cost effective and would allow time to save for a new one and or a clean used one. Re-manufactured power heads are availble with warranty . If you would like a price quote give me a call.
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7025332
01/08/12 07:14 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,253
sandjohnny
TFF Celebrity
|
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,253 |
Motor is always worth a lot more than the boat. On a new one you buy the motor and they give you the boat, almost.
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7025388
01/08/12 07:29 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,165
Team Brown Stripe
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,165 |
Call the guys at Texas Machine works and see what they can do for you. They might be able to throw a 200 block on it for you and give you some $$$ for your trade in. Or they can probably mod your existing one to 200hp too. Then you could kill 2 birds with one stone! Get the motor refreshed and add 50 extra HP and you won't have to re-rig anything or have to mess with titles!!! It's a win win!!! 
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: sandjohnny]
#7025840
01/08/12 10:14 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549
817-Fireman
OP
Pro Angler
|
OP
Pro Angler
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549 |
Yeah you got that right! Just for fun I was pricing new mercs....  not for this poor boy!
"People know me, I'm very important....I have many leather-bound books and my Guild hall smells of rich mahagony"
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: Team Brown Stripe]
#7025850
01/08/12 10:17 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549
817-Fireman
OP
Pro Angler
|
OP
Pro Angler
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549 |
Cool, didn't know they'd do that. I'll give them a call about it. As always thanks again TBS!
"People know me, I'm very important....I have many leather-bound books and my Guild hall smells of rich mahagony"
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: Gary Pender]
#7025855
01/08/12 10:19 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549
817-Fireman
OP
Pro Angler
|
OP
Pro Angler
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549 |
Thank ya sir, appreciate it.
"People know me, I'm very important....I have many leather-bound books and my Guild hall smells of rich mahagony"
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7026769
01/09/12 01:39 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,061
Mike Halfmann the boatmann
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,061 |
Highly disagree with re-ringing an old motor. Plain and simple, without going into mechanical details, IT JUST AIN'T GONNA WORK. Money wasted, time wasted, poor choist. IMHO.
mike halfmann
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: Mike Halfmann the boatmann]
#7026877
01/09/12 02:00 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549
817-Fireman
OP
Pro Angler
|
OP
Pro Angler
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 549 |
What is your suggestion? I was gonna call TMW and see about the 200hp power head, or even get mine reworked. What's your opinion?
"People know me, I'm very important....I have many leather-bound books and my Guild hall smells of rich mahagony"
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7027137
01/09/12 02:45 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,165
Team Brown Stripe
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,165 |
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: Mike Halfmann the boatmann]
#7027280
01/09/12 03:17 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,356
jimmye123
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,356 |
Highly disagree with re-ringing an old motor. Plain and simple, without going into mechanical details, IT JUST AIN'T GONNA WORK. Money wasted, time wasted, poor choist. IMHO. hmmmmmmm. wont work. hmmmmmmmm i guess everyone just throws away a old eng. i dont follow the logic,
Fun-N-Sun Metro Director 06 Legend le21 Fast cars, fast boats,
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7028270
01/09/12 01:57 PM
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 11,586
gary purdy
TFF Guru
|
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 11,586 |
I will install a fresh 1996 Mariner EFI on your boat with warranty w/title for 3995.00. Cylinders were refinished .015over by Texas Marine.
The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything. Remember what He has done and remember that He is not done yet!-- GOD IS GOOD
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7028369
01/09/12 02:30 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,061
Mike Halfmann the boatmann
TFF Team Angler
|
TFF Team Angler
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,061 |
What I mean is....if you just rering the old pistons, without doing a cylinder bore and piston replacement you will be waisting your effort and money. You say the engine is wore out. If it is wore out, that means that the cylinders are egg shaped and the piston oiling skirts are wore off. So if you install new rings that are perfectly round and sharp edged, they will litterly sand the cylinder walls out and make the engine have too much blow by. The blow by will basically put the postion of the piston in the wrong place when the reeds open or close. That results in a motor that won't idle and won't get top rpm. I am however 100% behind a complete rebuild and an upgrade to 200 carbs. The bore/stroke/rods/crank/pistons/block are the same in the 150 as they are in the 200. So a little shopping around, and the modification from a 150 to a 200 is possible without reaking havoc on the rest of the components.
mike halfmann
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7028444
01/09/12 03:05 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 926
Gary Pender
Pro Angler
|
Pro Angler
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 926 |
It's a given that when you re-ring one that you clean up the bores and make sure that they are round and check piston ring clearance. Please don't read between the lines and make assumptions. We have re-ringed dozens of motors and when the motor is apart a complete inspection is done.Anyone who does this for a living would know this. I agree that just a tear down and rings would not be acceptable.
Also, Mercury has a program called Pacemaker. These are new engines and have been used for photo shoots/testing/demo and come as new with full warranty and are substainally less than new.
Mercury list them on their dealer web site ever Tues.
Good Luck.
|
|
Re: Opinions/advice for re-build or re-buy outboard?
[Re: 817-Fireman]
#7028474
01/09/12 03:14 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,165
Team Brown Stripe
Extreme Angler
|
Extreme Angler
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,165 |
What is your suggestion? I was gonna call TMW and see about the 200hp power head, or even get mine reworked. What's your opinion? It appears as if his opinion is to not do what Gary Pender said. Which I agree with. Texas Machine works is a MACHINE SHOP they will check everything and make it right. They can do ANYTHING your outboard might require. They are not just mechanics!!! Here is Ronnie welding up a hole in a block for my Brother from Saturday night.   And after he cleans up the weld you will NEVER be able to tell it had a hole in the block and it will run GOOD AS NEW!!!  This is what TMW brings to the table and why they are the best!!!
|
|
Moderated by banker-always fishing, chickenman, Derek 🐝, Duck_Hunter, Fish Killer, J-2, Jacob, Jons3825, JustWingem, Nocona Brian, Toon-Troller, Uncle Zeek, Weekender1
|