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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Feljum Shwarper]
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12/06/11 05:56 PM
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BJH ( JUST JIGGING)
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Vandam has made 4.57 million in win earnings and the word is he has made more than that from sponsors...!
I would agree with you , but then we would both be WRONG !!!!!
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 06:18 PM
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RRogers
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Please make a list of the fishermen that have gotten rich at fishing. And just for fun lets define rich as 10 times you're career earning so about 10,000,000 or more. As previously stated 3 years ago KVD earned around 400,000 in endorsement money that year, lets deduct the 100,000 in expenses and that leaves 300,000. A nice income but certainly not rich. Now lets keep in mind he is the best and everyone else fishing for a living is second best or less. KVD has earned a very respectful amount of money but he stands alone at the top and no one is even close. All that said I bet he wouldn't trade it for the greatest white collared job in the world if it meant he wouldn't be fishing. LIVING OUT YOU'RE DREAM, PRICELESS!
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 07:36 PM
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SoCal Tom
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If so many are just scraping by or breaking even, then I dare say many come from some sort of money to begin with. Scraping by and breaking even surely can't last long. I wonder what scraping by is? I know what it means to me but Jerry Jones might be just scraping by right now too. Boyd Duckett has a very successful business and that's how he makes the money to go fishing. Anything he wins is secondary, and now he's got his own branded products. I know Charley Hartley has a sign making business in Ohio and uses that to help him fish the Elites, but every year is a challenge for him. Most of these guys are just getting by. But, they are doing what they love, and that's important to them.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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12/06/11 08:49 PM
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Rob Lay
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5K entry per tourney i can see why its soooooo expensive Biggest problem IMO. I don't see it any different than gambling? How much of purse comes from sponsor money vs. the entry fees? Everyone throws in the pot, series takes the juice for expenses, and then a few get paid. Less than zero sum gain, total out of pocket of all anglers is more in a tournament then goes back in the pockets total. Just like Vegas.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 08:56 PM
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Bassinfool
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Not 1/4 of what professional football and baseball players make and that is JUST WRONG. Then again you have to figure in entry fees that are not cheap, lodging, gas and maintenance of their rigs and not all the tackle is given to them by sponsors.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 09:30 PM
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Tommy Morton
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The playing field has changed, but most of the top 25 guys get a free boat to use, some get 2, and get a salary from the boat/motor manufacturer. At the end of the year they got bonuses for how they finished the year, if they made the classic, if they won the classic and so on. (I work for Skeeter Boats for a few years)
They also have sponsor products that would occasionally involve money, but mostly just the products. When you see a KVD Strike King bait....he is getting paid....Rojas Frog, same deal, but most are fishing for a very small FUND from the fishing industry until they win it big and get the money from the Classic.
Alton Jones is a perfect example.......I don't know the factual numbers, but he won enough money to do it for 20 years, but when he won the Classic is when he made the money.....Gary Klein for another.....never won it big but has made it a great career by staying toward the top.......
Just a little insight from my past experiences.....
TM
Last edited by Tommy Morton; 12/06/11 09:31 PM.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 09:48 PM
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rxkid2001
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I wonder how many of them flip their boat and truck yearly and pay very little on them. That would be a bigtime savings. Not to mention selling off your unused gear could bring in some. There's no way they just have all the old rods and reels they used before the latest/greatest came out sitting in their garages.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 10:15 PM
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skoutdoors
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I have heard a few say under loose lip conditions, if they had a job that paid 30/40,000 a year they would go back home. yikes!
If everyone focused on the important things in life, then there would be a shortage of fishing poles.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 10:19 PM
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Ken Denney
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Heard one of the pros say one day " trying to feed your family on tournament winnings is like trying to feed them from the lottery, your're going to starve". They have to build thier "Brand"
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Rob Lay]
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12/06/11 10:19 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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5K entry per tourney i can see why its soooooo expensive Biggest problem IMO. I don't see it any different than gambling? How much of purse comes from sponsor money vs. the entry fees? Everyone throws in the pot, series takes the juice for expenses, and then a few get paid. Less than zero sum gain, total out of pocket of all anglers is more in a tournament then goes back in the pockets total. Just like Vegas. Yes I agree poker is like that at the casino....but what about sports? Do football player pay to play? Baseball? I suppose people will say fishing isn't a sport!?
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 10:29 PM
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Bass_Bustin_Texan
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Unless the pros start making a "living" we won't see this sport grow. Just my opinion.
How can we let the "kids" dream to be BASS Pros when the Pros can't pay bills? No glory in that....The dream will dissapear with the next generation. We all grew up with Bill Dance, Jimmy Houston, Roland Martin, Shaw Grisby, even KVD as a young man....now we see less and less make it to that level as the years go on.
I guess that is my point bringing back the Grass Roots....allowing the "normal" person a way to dream about the GREAT LIFE of a tourning pro....not what we see now days. $$$$
You can avoid having ulcers by adapting to the situation: If you fall in the mud puddle, check your pockets for fish. ~Unknown
Open your eyes & look within, are you satisfied with the life youre living.
No matter how good or bad you have it, wake up each day thankful for your life. Someone somewhere else is desperately fighting for theirs.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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12/06/11 10:29 PM
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BigLeslie
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Some people are frugal no matter how much money they have.....look at the late Steve Jobs. Made millions and wore the same $20 blue jeans and cheap long sleeve shirt. Not all rich people flaunt their riches like the Rappers!  Actually, Steve wore black turtle necks by a japanese designer that were $300 a pop if I remember correctly. He also got a new Mercedes every 2-3 months. Just finished his biography, interesting story but what an absolute a@#$hole.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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12/06/11 10:41 PM
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Fish & Fly
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Unless the pros start making a "living" we won't see this sport grow. Just my opinion.
How can we let the "kids" dream to be BASS Pros when the Pros can't pay bills? No glory in that....The dream will dissapear with the next generation. We all grew up with Bill Dance, Jimmy Houston, Roland Martin, Shaw Grisby, even KVD as a young man....now we see less and less make it to that level as the years go on.
I guess that is my point bringing back the Grass Roots....allowing the "normal" person a way to dream about the GREAT LIFE of a tourning pro....not what we see now days. $$$$ Interesting idea.... how to you plan on a system working like that, financially?
-Jeff
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Jim Gilbert]
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12/06/11 10:54 PM
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RRogers
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I think they make about a hundred dollars. Maybe a little more.
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Re: How much money do pros make?
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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12/06/11 10:55 PM
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Rob Lay
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I don't see it any different than gambling? How much of purse comes from sponsor money vs. the entry fees? Everyone throws in the pot, series takes the juice for expenses, and then a few get paid. Less than zero sum gain, total out of pocket of all anglers is more in a tournament then goes back in the pockets total. Just like Vegas. Yes I agree poker is like that at the casino....but what about sports? Do football player pay to play? Baseball? I suppose people will say fishing isn't a sport!? no, pro football and baseball players don't have a HUGE entry fee that is mainly used to pay their salary. football and baseball have sponsors and spectators that pay their salary.
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