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 Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 01:08 AM
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aggie182
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Where do you draw the line? I know some people are bigger purists than others. I think I fall somewhere in the middle and some of what is mentioned below is over the line and some isn't to me. But, one of the goals of fishing, or fly fishing in the case of this thread, is to catch fish, right?
I have read on another forum that a 1" gulp minnow on a 1/124 oz. jighead on the fly rod will slay the bass. Is that over the line? What about the coffee bean 'fly' for targetting carp? Soaking flies in Gulp juice? Spoon flies? Other synthetics? Chumming up fish with corn/bread then throwing a corn/bread imitation 'fly'?
So, where do you draw the line?
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 01:40 AM
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Bass Bug
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So, where do you draw the line?
 wot line ?
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 01:46 AM
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Jacob m
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Feathers and fur. You don't need anything but skill and if your gonna soak your fly or use a gulp then do it with a spinning rod. Its all about the challenge of getting that big fish to eat feather/fur with a hook in it.
Fishing is one thing i can't agree on but catching would be more of what i do.
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 02:50 AM
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StevenNDallas
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It's about the same as cheating on a loved one, the second you either question your activities and FEEL GUILTY, you are over the line, right then and there, buddy boy.
And DONT go asking your male friends if its OK, just keep thinking about your dear old mum and dad.
Oh, and I'm with Bass Bug. I go to catch fish !
Last edited by StevenNDallas; 11/17/11 02:56 AM.
Unless you are wearing a grass skirt and sleeping in a ditch and eating only road kill, you too are part of 'the problem'.
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 03:41 AM
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Deep Trout
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Hand fishing in the nude! (insert worm joke.) Anything else is cheating. And I draw the line onto my reel.
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 05:40 AM
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Goooodnessss - There is no line...and the fisherman who frowns upon another fisherman for his (legal) tactics, his boat, his attire, or for that matter anything else, isn't a real fisherman, or much of a man for that matter. And for the man who feels frowned upon - smile to yourself at the ignorance of the frowner...and fish on baby!!!!! 
In this life there is fly fishing and tying...and then there is all that other stuff in between that doesn't matter.
Will
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
[Re: aggie182]
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11/17/11 07:59 AM
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Fly fishing is the only way I know how to fish... still can't cast baitcasters, though I can unknot one quite well. So does this mean I'm conditionally a purist? ... lest I say, I just bought a new 14' speyrod so I can now cast my Rapalas  .
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
[Re: aggie182]
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11/17/11 11:59 AM
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George Glazener
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Where do you draw the line? I know some people are bigger purists than others. I think I fall somewhere in the middle and some of what is mentioned below is over the line and some isn't to me. But, one of the goals of fishing, or fly fishing in the case of this thread, is to catch fish, right?
I have read on another forum that a 1" gulp minnow on a 1/124 oz. jighead on the fly rod will slay the bass. Is that over the line? What about the coffee bean 'fly' for targetting carp? Soaking flies in Gulp juice? Spoon flies? Other synthetics? Chumming up fish with corn/bread then throwing a corn/bread imitation 'fly'?
So, where do you draw the line? It doesnt matter whether its a cane pole, casting rod, fly rod, etc etc etc, Fishing is fishing is fishing tackle and technique is a personal choice. Learn more about the fish where to do they live, what do they eat, seasonal patterns be versatile and open minded and then hone your skills on favored tackle and technique.
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
[Re: aggie182]
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11/17/11 02:30 PM
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If you want to fly fish for records (like IGFA records), there are specific rules you must follow. I know of one person who tried to claim a fly fishing record for a species of carp he caught in one of the bayous in Houston. It was disallowed because he had used a coffee bean superglued to a hook.
Otherwise, it's your call.
Mickfly
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
[Re: aggie182]
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11/17/11 03:06 PM
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tmds3
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For me it depends on where I am fishing on what I will use, a pond I fish at does not fly fish well for me at this time because I cant roll cast(working on it though) but I can use my rod and reel and catch bass, now once I learn to roll cast I will fish it with the fly.
Common Sense has become so rare that it should be considered a super power
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 04:11 PM
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George Glazener
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If you want to fly fish for records (like IGFA records), there are specific rules you must follow. I know of one person who tried to claim a fly fishing record for a species of carp he caught in one of the bayous in Houston. It was disallowed because he had used a coffee bean superglued to a hook.
Otherwise, it's your call. Mick, even IGFA rules are subject to change. Recently acceptable rule change allowed records for spin flies after challenge by Henry Cowen, well-known writer, fly designer and guide. Makes the purists shudder in their boots  Someone should challenge the coffee bean rule. Material grown from a bush is as natural as material grown off a rooster. 
Last edited by George Glazener; 11/17/11 04:27 PM.
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 05:19 PM
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tmds3
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Material grown from a bush is as natural as material grown off a rooster. Thats priceless wisdom right there 
Common Sense has become so rare that it should be considered a super power
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/17/11 05:35 PM
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Dave Speer
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Hand fishing in the nude! (insert worm joke.) Anything else is cheating. And I draw the line onto my reel. My name used to be Shallow Carp and I approve of this message.
When I gets the cravin to chase fat girls, I call on Bass Bug
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/18/11 01:07 AM
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Tom Baty
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I've fly fished with bait before. Tossing a shrimp with my 5-weight got me a nice flounder not too long ago. I plan on fishing the catfish spaw next year by flinging worms around dam riprap with my fly rod.
-Tom
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Re: Fly Fishing vs. Fishing with a Fly Rod - Where do you draw the line?
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11/18/11 01:28 AM
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StevenNDallas
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I got to admit, once a friend was chunking, I mean really nasty chunking, a plastic worm with an 8 weight and I gave him the stink eye behind his back.
And it was the nastiness of the cast that truly bothered me.
Then when he offered me a shot at the rig, I acted all grateful and polite.
But I was acting, I tell ya... acting.
Oh yeah, the point being, if you cannot throw a loop, then you are not fly fishing.
Last edited by StevenNDallas; 11/18/11 03:40 PM.
Unless you are wearing a grass skirt and sleeping in a ditch and eating only road kill, you too are part of 'the problem'.
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