If your opinion of TFO and their products is so low, why do you sell them?

I doubt you get him to reply, his only post is to come on here and give his "expert" opinion on the numerous broken BVK rods he's had to deal with, once he has seen how much everybody here likes em, he probably realized there was no market for his "high-end" rods built better than most

He surely has read Dale Carnegies book on how to make friends and influence people. I'll put a BVK up against his "high end" rod.
Bring it!

He's a poser. Not a poster. Kinda funny he pulled up a post from 2010. I did learn something. You can't lift a 6 lb. Striper into the boat on a 9 wt. BVK.

Yea, Jeff did our program this month and strongly warned about the dangers of lifting and "high sticking". I didn't try to lift the 4 pound blue cat with the 3wt BVK rod. I knew that wouldn't work!

hey wait a minute scott. i have broke two of your rods on the same trip. is that a record? i too like tfo rods and love the warranty program

Don't all rod makers have essentially the same warranty these days? And do we use our better (more expensive) rods less simply because of the Texas fly fishing environment?

I too have seen some breakage issues with the BVKs, especially in the cork. Doesn't stop me from using their rods, I break them so often as it is I'll just deal with the cork until I break the tip or rod somewhere. I also fish so much that I think any rod I own will have the same problems. Most of the breakages come from clouserizing rods, throwing flies that are to big (heavy) for the rod for most people.

The higher end rods cost more to get replaced, I have also heard that in some cases it can take months to get the rod back where the longest is has taken TFO to send my rods back is 5 business days. I do want to give the Echo 3 a shot, $30 to send back and it's a pretty sweet casting rod.

ok im here to let EVERYONE KNOW...EVEN MR SLOAN AND GUY TILLISON..... that i was posting to find out if anyone has had any breakeage besides the ones i have heard of. obviously someone thinks they know me on here which if they did it wouldve been left untouched. instead today i get the third degree from the dept mgr (who was the one that actually broke the rod not i as some people assumed which i can understand because of the typo not saying "a"rod was broken.) that said im no longer allowed to talk anything negative in anyway shape or form. but my customers value my opinion and look up to me as an expert and trust me so if i hear of multiple broken rods and im thinking im selling these people a rod thats "just as good as a high dollar rod" then i will be honest. but i took this as a lesson that to keep my job i have to lie to people(which i suppose is the way a customer wants it when they buy rods and gear nowadays). my manager will see this im sure so will mr sloan and guy tillison..... maybe you shouldnt take it as a threat but as a question to look deep and question youre quality control? i never put where i worked or who my name was but somehow it got to TFO in matter of days. so from now on ill be the used car salesman they want me to be so i dont get in more trouble. i work for a company thats built its name on reputationof selling quality products with quality staff and great ownership....and is building my reputation by being employed here the last 6 years. ( so way to go getting another american possibly unemployed just for stating an opinion on a FORUM!!!!!!) so next time you go to your local shop to buy gear for anything you do outdoors...ask yourself is he saying these things cause he is paid to or told to or is he being honest with me! i dont mean to offend anyone and ive never broken a rod via a high stick or candy caneing the rod in my life but c'mon its a 9wt and if you expect me to put less than 6 lbs of side pressure on a rod pulling on a big 36" redfish heading to the groves or a 15lb snook heading towards a piling to turn him then id used a 6 wt i dont care if a rod is $100 or if it is $1,000,000 it better cast well (which the bvk does in my opinion 10 times better than any rod theyve created so far)! SO I REPEAT im sorry if someone got offended and had nothing else better to do but find a way to shout from the rooftops that someone spoke their mind and opinion...in AMERICA!!! AND im in no way shape or form trying to knock temple fork but i actually got excited to see a lightweight rod that had a fast action I LIKED TO CAST!! trust me theres not alot of rods out there i like as of late especially since certain other companies have changed to a more expensive warranty. just remember a forum is not a battleground it is a forum and is open to those to talk fishing and give opinions. so once again i am so truly truly sorry if i offended someone that doesnt know me for speaking the truth. i was told to put a retraction on here but im sticking to my guns on this. cause one thing matters in sales....not whos on your pro staff or who does and does not like your rods but whether or not i can count on them to land the fish of a lifetime if i hook up to it!!!!!! so just dont get mad reading this just take 5 minutes and ask yourself....whats really important here. the freedom of speech and will i land that big fish if i buy a road no matter what company or what price! god bless america and lets make freedom of speech on a forum not get someone fired because thats unconstitutional and if its unconstitutional it is un-american! this is a texas forum and that is a lucky state due to mr ron paul being a part of it whether you like his actions or not. so take some time and look at the freedoms weve lost in the last ten years and hope that we can at least speak freely in the future of our lives, our government, or even a freaking fishing rod. this site forum has a bald eagle and an american flag when you come to it. then i would hope that the person who got so upset with me would make it a debate and make it fun. i would also like to see the person step forward and admit who made the call to whoever they did and when a an immigrant has my job (cause im probably gonna be fired after posting all this) that i wont go on wellfare but will find a way to survive no matter what! i said what i said and i didnt mean to offend anyone BUT IM STICKING TO MY GUNS.....before those are taken away from me too! godbless america and god bless the constitution.......and god bless you and texas! and stick to your words for they represent who you are. for i will not back down to anyone...ever! i can post my phone number on here if anyone wants to scream at me to feel better just dont go and tattle that someone didnt agree with you and get them to lose their job over it!!!!

This is what most folks overlook about BVK rods.

It dosen't sound to me that you have much of a job if you are expected to lie to your ustomers. Why would anyone want to work at a place like that?


Big Dale

I think you need to re-read your last statement. "They are a knock off company.....much like TFO."

There is so much about salesmanship that you do not understand, that I don't know where to begin. Maybe another line of work might be a better fit for you. Times are hard and I wish you the best of luck in finding a new job.

I could not (or would not}read that. Your manager should explain paragraphs to you maybe.

I didn't read it either, too long, too rambling, you need to go sit down & get your thoughts together & then go post a short paragraph where somebody cares
Dear Abby

I managed to read some, it gave me a headache.