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 Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: baclash]
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09/03/11 01:46 AM
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Mckinneycrappiecatcher
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Its a spot, I dont think its bronze enough to b a meanmouth
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: Mckinneycrappiecatcher]
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09/03/11 02:00 AM
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MidnightRider
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It's a spot. And I so would love Spots to get to high teens. Imagine the fight!
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: rigginrich]
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09/03/11 03:33 AM
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steve1206
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nope looks like LM spotted cross AKA meanmouth A meanmouth is a cross b/t a spot and a smallmouth...not a LM....and that's a spot.
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: Pope1]
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09/03/11 03:48 AM
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Destroyer
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Black bass are part of the genus Micropterus and white bass are part of Morone. You can't cross species from other genera. It looks like a beautiful spotted bass. I bet it fought well. Not necessarily... (Not meaning to offend..only educate...) For one, this would assume that we, as humans, did not screw up somewhere along the way and put them in the wrong genus. And second, "Hybrids between different subspecies within a species (such as between the Bengal tiger and Siberian tiger) are known as intra-specific hybrids. Hybrids between different species within the same genus (such as between lions and tigers) are sometimes known as interspecific hybrids or crosses. Hybrids between different genera (such as between sheep and goats) are known as intergeneric hybrids. Extremely rare interfamilial hybrids have been known to occur (such as the guineafowl hybrids).[3] No interordinal (between different orders) animal hybrids are known." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_(biology)
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: Dubee]
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09/03/11 04:06 AM
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Starless
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FYI, Largemouth and White Bass can NOT crossbreed. It's genetically impossible. Largemouth are actually "sunfish" where as white bass are "True Basses".
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: Destroyer]
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09/03/11 04:19 AM
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Starless
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Black bass are part of the genus Micropterus and white bass are part of Morone. You can't cross species from other genera. It looks like a beautiful spotted bass. I bet it fought well. Not necessarily... (Not meaning to offend..only educate...) For one, this would assume that we, as humans, did not screw up somewhere along the way and put them in the wrong genus. And second, "Hybrids between different subspecies within a species (such as between the Bengal tiger and Siberian tiger) are known as intra-specific hybrids. Hybrids between different species within the same genus (such as between lions and tigers) are sometimes known as interspecific hybrids or crosses. Hybrids between different genera (such as between sheep and goats) are known as intergeneric hybrids. Extremely rare interfamilial hybrids have been known to occur (such as the guineafowl hybrids).[3] No interordinal (between different orders) animal hybrids are known." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_(biology) Very rarely, you will see two species in the same Genus Crossbreed, such as a Liger in your example. That's a male lion crossed with a female tiger. However. while they are separate species, they are in the same Genus ( Panthera ) and also the same Family. ( Felidae ) That is why it's occasionally possible for them to cross breed. Because they are both members of the Panthera Genus, as well as the Felidae Family. They are Panthera Leo, and Panthera Tigris, I'm guessing you can figure out which is which lol. But, keep in mind that Largemouth Bass and White Bass are not only not in the same Genus, but they're not in the same Family, either. Largemouth Bass ( Micropterus salmoides ) are in the sunfishes family ( Centrarchidae ) while White Bass ( Morone chrysops ) are in the Temperate Bass family. ( Moronidae ) Therefor, they cannot genetically hybridize.
Last edited by Starless; 09/06/11 03:57 AM. Reason: Accidentally had Felidae and Panthera reversed
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: Starless]
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09/03/11 04:38 AM
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Pope1
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Tigers and lions do share a genus. You are saying Panthera is their Family. Their Family is Felidae.
I realize white and black bass are not in the same Family as well. I think you have Family and Genus backwards.
Taxonomic classification runs:
Domain
Kingdom
Phylum
Class
Order
Family
Genus
species
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: Destroyer]
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09/03/11 04:50 AM
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Pope1
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You are right. I have heard if this occurring in plants, but not animals. I should not have reduced my answer to include all species without considering plants or manipulations by humans.
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: Dubee]
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09/03/11 05:47 AM
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: HERROUTDOORS]
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09/03/11 01:52 PM
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thats a spotted bass... or a white/largemouth/smallmouth/carp/bullhead/brooke trout hybrid...we caught those alot back home.
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: Dan90210 ☮]
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09/03/11 02:10 PM
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: baclash]
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09/03/11 04:19 PM
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Re: Possible crossbreed fish id!?
[Re: HENDO]
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09/05/11 04:41 PM
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lazygabriel
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spot.if thats a guad it crossed with a spot.a guads lateral band is broken.
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