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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: StumpJumper1]
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05/31/11 11:37 PM
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fcag
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is this the end of the H2O line?????? Hopefully not. But just in case, I might go "stock up".
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: fcag]
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06/01/11 12:30 AM
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Jigaholic
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just hope their return policy stays as is
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: StumpJumper1]
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06/01/11 12:45 AM
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kellisag
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is this the end of the H2O line?????? I hope not!
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: kellisag]
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06/01/11 12:50 AM
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txwhitetail
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Looks to me like (from reading the releases on a couple of sites) that academy needed an influx of capital. Also (if I read right) the Gochman family will still have a minority stake in the company. Sounds like they may have the same core group of folks running it with some fresh capital to work with to expand...Just my thoughts and all speculation.
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: Fly Rod Yakker]
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06/01/11 12:56 AM
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AdanV
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When the company I work for sold 80% of itself to an investment firm, everything changed for the worst (and I mean EVERYTHING).
My superiors were honest & down to earth, everyone got along well and worked together as a team. We would receive quarter end bonuses and treat each other out to the bars/restaurants every Thursday after-work. All of our projects/assignments were always done on time and done right. Our customer base seemed more like our friends & family.
And now, we have the whole opposite. There are very few people you can trust. Most of the managers stick each other in the back in the hopes to make themselves look more decent than others (my immediate supervisor most of all). We now have all these 'Sales/Marketing' personnel that earn more than twice than what I make and know even less than our janitor. All of my superiors now talk and behave in a corporate (i.e. they talk, talk, talk, but never take action nor decide on anything). After work, nobody knows you and cares even less about you. Its is now very rare for any of our assignments/projects to be finished on time and right. Therefore our quality and service factor plummeted down. They try to market and sell our equipment at ridiculously high cost (in the hopes to find a sucker, rather than make a fair price with a good customer).
We're now going on with 3 straight quarters with negative profits...
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: AdanV]
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06/01/11 01:39 AM
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Ted Dyer
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When the company I work for sold 80% of itself to an investment firm, everything changed for the worst (and I mean EVERYTHING).
My superiors were honest & down to earth, everyone got along well and worked together as a team. We would receive quarter end bonuses and treat each other out to the bars/restaurants every Thursday after-work. All of our projects/assignments were always done on time and done right. Our customer base seemed more like our friends & family.
And now, we have the whole opposite. There are very few people you can trust. Most of the managers stick each other in the back in the hopes to make themselves look more decent than others (my immediate supervisor most of all). We now have all these 'Sales/Marketing' personnel that earn more than twice than what I make and know even less than our janitor. All of my superiors now talk and behave in a corporate (i.e. they talk, talk, talk, but never take action nor decide on anything). After work, nobody knows you and cares even less about you. Its is now very rare for any of our assignments/projects to be finished on time and right. Therefore our quality and service factor plummeted down. They try to market and sell our equipment at ridiculously high cost (in the hopes to find a sucker, rather than make a fair price with a good customer).
We're now going on with 3 straight quarters with negative profits...
Bingo... This is so on target it is scary. I have had an identical (and I mean identical) experience at my place of employment. We do more meetings than you can believe and are all about the "process" rather than the result. It all depends on what KKR is planning long term. Typically, they will bring in a new management team starting with the CFO. THey will cut the company to the bone to reduce expenses (people) to increase profits. They will be highly leveraged (carrying a trainload of debt) and have to raise prices to make their covenants (agreements) with the banks that financed the deal. They will, in very short order, lose any long term plan and begin to run the company looking only quarter to quarter. Boy do I sound bitter, but then I have lived the Venture Capital experience for several years. I would recommend to all of the employees of Academy that they start learning all of the corporate lingo immediately. Learn to use the following terms: leaverage / synergry / value proposition / robust / economy of scale / metrics.... 
 The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: AdanV]
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06/01/11 01:39 AM
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Mark Perry
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I am gonna let the ink dry on the contracts at least before I assume the worst ot expect the new owners to suck.
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: Mark Perry]
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06/01/11 02:19 AM
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Fly Rod Yakker
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I think a lot of you guys are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. What some of y'all fear might come true. But then again, after reading this in the Huffington Post, Academy doesn't sound like a company running to Obama for a bailout... ----- From Huffington Post ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20110531/us-kkr-academy-sports). ------ NEW YORK The buyout firm Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. LP said Tuesday that it has agreed to buy a majority stake in Academy Sports + Outdoors, a privately held sporting goods retailer with locations throughout the Southeast. Terms were not disclosed. Academy Sports' president, Rodney Faldyn, will continue as president and assume the CEO job from David Gochman, who is the grandson of its founder. The Gochman family will keep a minority stake in Academy Sports. Gochman has been CEO since 1996. Faldyn became president in 2007. In a statement, Faldyn said the ownership change will speed up the retailer's continued growth and give it greater flexibility to achieve "strategic goals," though he didn't give details. The company's revenue has grown to $2.7 billion last year from about $1 billion in 2004. This year, it started selling its merchandise online. Academy Sports is headquartered in Katy, Texas, outside Houston. It has 131 locations in 11 states throughout the Southeast, and has about 16,000 employees.
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: Fly Rod Yakker]
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06/01/11 05:37 AM
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AR0G
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Hope the H2O stuff doesn't go up in price
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: AR0G]
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06/01/11 01:36 PM
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Zipster
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I see a stage up for an IPO.
Investment companies only buy 2 types of companies: Those that are in trouble but can be salvaged and turned for a profit, and those that are highly profitable and can be taken public but need capital to do so.
The owners keeping a minority interest have guaranteed themselves longterm wealth by doing such.
I think you will see Academy make a serious run at Dicks, Gander and some of the others in the near future with an IPO in the next 2 years.
will things change? Yes, but to what degree no one knows just yet.
My .02
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: Fly Rod Yakker]
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06/01/11 02:17 PM
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9094
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I think Academy talked about selling several years ago but decided not too.
But when Arthur Gochman died last fall, it probably became inevitable. Kind of like a rancher when he passes away, kids rarely keep the "ranch."
Academy seems to be a very strong company, several new stores opening up across the nation this year and I think they there are 130+ as it is.
Just a guess, but Academy's corporate history is closely tied to outdoor sports and I doubt that will change.
If they went away from that, they would be more closely aligned with Dick's and/or Sports Authority. That's already a crowded market with strong players.
And because they also have team sports and a lot of clothing (have you ever been in an Academy on tax-free weekend or Black Friday?!?) in addition to outdoor gear, they reach a market that Cabela's and Bass Pro doesn't always reach.
So while I'm sure there will be some tweaking, I doubt the outdoors portion of Academy goes away or changes too much over time. This is right on the money. My company has a long history with Academy and I don't think anyone will see much change.
Retirement best job ever.
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: AdanV]
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06/01/11 02:48 PM
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Skeeter 250
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When the company I work for sold 80% of itself to an investment firm, everything changed for the worst (and I mean EVERYTHING).
My superiors were honest & down to earth, everyone got along well and worked together as a team. We would receive quarter end bonuses and treat each other out to the bars/restaurants every Thursday after-work. All of our projects/assignments were always done on time and done right. Our customer base seemed more like our friends & family.
And now, we have the whole opposite. There are very few people you can trust. Most of the managers stick each other in the back in the hopes to make themselves look more decent than others (my immediate supervisor most of all). We now have all these 'Sales/Marketing' personnel that earn more than twice than what I make and know even less than our janitor. All of my superiors now talk and behave in a corporate (i.e. they talk, talk, talk, but never take action nor decide on anything). After work, nobody knows you and cares even less about you. Its is now very rare for any of our assignments/projects to be finished on time and right. Therefore our quality and service factor plummeted down. They try to market and sell our equipment at ridiculously high cost (in the hopes to find a sucker, rather than make a fair price with a good customer).
We're now going on with 3 straight quarters with negative profits...
I agree. Private equity companies buy companies with a plan for change. They see opportunities to make more money than the company is already making. They have to make changes to get a better return on their money invested in the business. Change will happen. It is a matter of what, how much, and if it for the better or worse.
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: 210amatuerangler]
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06/01/11 03:20 PM
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Mrs. fouzman
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Doubt anything is going to change. I hope not! Unless they get more fishing tackle.
If you truly love nature, you will find beauty everywhere. Vincent Van Gogh
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: Zipster]
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06/01/11 07:49 PM
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horseplaydvm
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If Tackle Warehouse gets sold to investors then I will be worried.
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Re: Acadamy sold to investment company
[Re: horseplaydvm]
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06/01/11 09:10 PM
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billyfish
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I think it'll get worse, i go to the temple store and most of the time they dont even have p'seed flukes cause they are out, i ask the guy why dont they order extras he says the big boys in houston say that is all they need. So been ordering mine from BPS
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