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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Fly Rod Yakker] #6195545 05/17/11 09:57 PM
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pearow, those are good looking bugs. I think the body shape has a huge amount to do with the bug riding hook point up. I don't know if the lead wire is totally necessary, but I'm going to leave it on for now. Did those hooks come with the kinks in them, or is that part of what you did to them? I've been using regular B10S Gamakatsu (HAI!) stingers on the ones shown above and they've been working well.

Here was a taker from today on the Original Upside Down Frog (accept no substitutes).


It was a good solid hookup in the corner of the mouth.

Gib, the GSB did have a more interesting kicking motion on the prototype. Just wait until those royalties start rolling in! smile

Fly Rod Yakker, do you know of somewhere online that shows that particular hook you bought? I'd sure like to see them.



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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Txredraider] #6195606 05/17/11 10:18 PM
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the flies are tied on popper hooks which have the bend so the popper head wont turn; theyre mustad 33903 size 2-p-

Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: pearow] #6195792 05/17/11 11:27 PM
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That's what I was thinking, but I've never used any of those, so I wasn't 100% sure.



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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Txredraider] #6196009 05/18/11 12:26 AM
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I am sans lead tape, I will hit up turner hardware and try my hand at this.


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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: LoneStarCarper] #6196181 05/18/11 01:09 AM
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The latest versions that I tested today no gottee the lead tape. In fact, the lead tape fell off the original with no ill effects seen after its departure. I'm just putting a few wraps of lead wire around the hook shank opposite the barb.



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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Txredraider] #6196921 05/18/11 03:52 AM
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Txredraider,

Mustad 37172bln. I got the 1/0, will trim the weedless guard off, and tie a frog pattern with the hook point up.

Mine have a 1/32 oz. lead attachment at the back of the hook, should cause it to land and ride hook point up.

The plan is to spin enough hair to make a frog pattern that looks similar to a Spro frog.

http://www.barlowstackle.com/Mustad-37172BLN-Weedless-P530C97.aspx


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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Fly Rod Yakker] #6197002 05/18/11 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: Fly Rod Yakker
Txredraider,

Mustad 37172bln. I got the 1/0, will trim the weedless guard off, and tie a frog pattern with the hook point up.

Mine have a 1/32 oz. lead attachment at the back of the hook, should cause it to land and ride hook point up.

The plan is to spin enough hair to make a frog pattern that looks
similar to a Spro frog.

http://www.barlowstackle.com/Mustad-37172BLN-Weedless-P530C97.aspx


I have been workin on one o them too, havent picked a hook yet, leanin towards 5/0 Gama sraight worm hook & heavy mono weed guard


Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Bass Bug] #6197422 05/18/11 11:27 AM
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FRY, That's a cool looking hook, but wow they're steep. It is cool that they make one weighted that lightly.

If you're going to clip off the weedguard (which I'm all for), is there any reason that hook would be superior to a standard stinger with some lead wire wrapped at that same spot?

That's almost exactly where I put my lead, by the way. It's nice to do something pretty close to right for a change. smile

Mike, you're working foam and I'm fighting deerhair. It's a crazy, upside down world lately. That's a damn good looking body and the way you have the legs on it is just awesome. You always give me something new to aspire to with this lashing thing.

I also know that if you go with that 5/0, you'll catch a fish to justify it. I'm looking forward to being jealous of your fish again. I miss it.

Did you pull those legs in with a needle? Also, did you turn the leg flanges/gaskets by hand too?



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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Txredraider] #6204834 05/19/11 10:49 PM
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OK, had to try my hand on an upside down frog. I spin heads and use deerhair for wings and such, but this is only the second popper I've tried to make. Be gentle.
From above

From the front

From behind



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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Johnny Angler] #6205259 05/20/11 12:50 AM
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Only the fish can pass judgement for sure, but it looks good to me. smile



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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Txredraider] #6208294 05/20/11 06:15 PM
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Me too!





Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Gib] #6208609 05/20/11 07:36 PM
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c'mon, thas not really your second (is it ?), looks good to my eye

Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Bass Bug] #6209244 05/20/11 10:17 PM
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Yes, it really is my second one. I tried it out today. It rode hook point up at first, but flipped over after a while. Guess I didn't put enough lead on the hook shaft or didn't get the hair packed tight enough. Oh well.


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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Johnny Angler] #6209937 05/21/11 01:48 AM
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I didn't use a lot of hair in my versions. I think on the size 1 hooks I used 3 or at most 4 less than pencil sized bundles of hair total and I didn't pack it at all.

You might try trimming the deerhair on the bottom into a V shape when seen from the front. Make it similar to a keel on a boat.

The other thing I'd try on your next one is to leave the deerhair a bit longer in front of the hook to maximize weedlessnessness. When I trimmed mine I sighted from the hook eye to the point and trimmed just above that line.

To make you feel better about the quality of your work, which is very good for no more deerhair than you've worked with, have a look at one of my early bugs.



You know that makes you smile. Keep pluggin'. smile



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Re: Upside Down Frog 2.0...Now with GSB! [Re: Txredraider] #6210060 05/21/11 02:24 AM
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That pic reminds me of the scene in finding nemo when the puffer fish (bloat) spooks and swells immediately.

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