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Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
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05/14/11 02:56 AM
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Herron
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Caught some really nice red ears today only to have a huge water moccasin swim up and bite at least 2 of them.
I threw one of the bitten fish back and haven't inspected the others.
Should I just toss them all? They are really nice fish.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: Herron]
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05/14/11 03:00 AM
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To be on the safe side I would get rid of em. In the future start using a Ice Chest. No only does it keep your fish better it is also safer.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: Herron]
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05/14/11 03:01 AM
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Don Morey
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Toss the fish eat the snake.
Fried Moccasin Ingredients: 1 large Moccasin 1 qt. water Tarragon, dash 4 Tbsp. salt Thyme, dash Oil Marinade 1 cup flour Margarine 1/8 tsp. paprika Instructions: Soak moccasin carcass for 2 hours in salt water. Rinse and dry meat well. Cut meat into chunks to fry. Marinate meat in for 7 hours. Coat each piece with mixture of flour, paprika, pepper, tarragon and thyme. Fry chunks of prepared moccasin in oil until golden brown.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: Don Morey]
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05/14/11 03:04 AM
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The same happened to me not long ago, my friend who is a marine biologist and works with venomous snakes told me that cooking the fish will denature the poison. That said, I didn't really feel too keen on keeping that fish. Luckily I knew which one it was.
I almost always use an ice chest, but that day it was a steep climb so I took a stringer. I have since invested in a 5gallon bucket from Academy along with a topper for it that holds some tackle. It works out well for those difficult areas that make taking an ice chest too difficult.
Everyone has to believe in something - I believe I'll go fishing!
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: MsSunfishDelight]
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05/14/11 03:15 AM
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Thanks guys (and gals). Guess I'll start carrying the bait bucket when after Red Ears.
This snake was huge. He was every bit of 5 foot long. After he latched onto the second fish, I decided to pull the stringer up on the platform. The snake came right up with them still attached to the fish. He lay there holding onto the fish for a couple of minutes. After he disengaged from the fish, he just sat there for about 5 minutes protecting his stringer.
I called another fisherman over and we stood there and gawked at the size of this snake. The snake flopped back in the water and slowly swam away.
Unfortunately, I botched the photo - I was a little distracted. After I left, the other guy saw the snake again and had it strike at 3 different lures. I guess it was really hungry and, perhaps, a little upset that it lost its buffet.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: Herron]
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05/14/11 03:19 AM
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Don Morey
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I wonder what it is that really attracts them, the free meal, blood smell, etc.
A friend told me a long time ago, in Texas never let anything hang in the water, not even your feet.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: Don Morey]
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05/14/11 07:05 AM
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I wonder what it is that really attracts them, the free meal, blood smell, etc. I think it depends on the snake species. I've noticed the regular brown water snake seems to be attracted by vibration more than anything. The cottonmouth senses vibration as well as heat. Pit vipers have that ability, and I read they actually get a "heat image" and zero in on that A friend told me a long time ago, in Texas never let anything hang in the water, not even your feet. I have to agree with that for sure. After seeing the water snakes in the places I've been I can't even begin to think about wanting to dangle my feet out there. 
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: Herron]
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05/14/11 08:27 AM
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Thanks guys (and gals). Guess I'll start carrying the bait bucket when after Red Ears.
This snake was huge. He was every bit of 5 foot long. After he latched onto the second fish, I decided to pull the stringer up on the platform. The snake came right up with them still attached to the fish. He lay there holding onto the fish for a couple of minutes. After he disengaged from the fish, he just sat there for about 5 minutes protecting his stringer.
I called another fisherman over and we stood there and gawked at the size of this snake. The snake flopped back in the water and slowly swam away.
Unfortunately, I botched the photo - I was a little distracted. After I left, the other guy saw the snake again and had it strike at 3 different lures. I guess it was really hungry and, perhaps, a little upset that it lost its buffet. Are you sure it was a mocassin? This is typically unnatural behavior. Many snakes look like these and people identify them improperly. Most of the water mocassins I've come across that have been attactched to a fish almost instictively let it go way before I touched a stringer. People mistake them for savages, although they will hit free meal, I don't think you had a mocassin on board. Plus when you said it guarded it, that made me think that it wasn't a mocassin as most the ones that I have run across have been very.... skiddish. But either way I wouldn't of chanced it either since I don't know what you pulled up with your stringer.
You know the old saying
If it floats, flys, or f___s it is always cheaper to rent!
You have to decide which is more important.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: MsSunfishDelight]
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05/14/11 12:49 PM
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The same happened to me not long ago, my friend who is a marine biologist and works with venomous snakes told me that cooking the fish will denature the poison. True that! I also think that snake venom is not poisonous to the human stomach.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
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05/14/11 12:56 PM
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I know a number of fisherman who mistake diamond back water snakes (not dangerous) with water mocassins.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
[Re: 210amatuerangler]
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05/14/11 02:04 PM
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Thanks guys (and gals). Guess I'll start carrying the bait bucket when after Red Ears.
This snake was huge. He was every bit of 5 foot long. After he latched onto the second fish, I decided to pull the stringer up on the platform. The snake came right up with them still attached to the fish. He lay there holding onto the fish for a couple of minutes. After he disengaged from the fish, he just sat there for about 5 minutes protecting his stringer.
I called another fisherman over and we stood there and gawked at the size of this snake. The snake flopped back in the water and slowly swam away.
Unfortunately, I botched the photo - I was a little distracted. After I left, the other guy saw the snake again and had it strike at 3 different lures. I guess it was really hungry and, perhaps, a little upset that it lost its buffet. Are you sure it was a mocassin? This is typically unnatural behavior. Many snakes look like these and people identify them improperly. Most of the water mocassins I've come across that have been attactched to a fish almost instictively let it go way before I touched a stringer. People mistake them for savages, although they will hit free meal, I don't think you had a mocassin on board. Plus when you said it guarded it, that made me think that it wasn't a mocassin as most the ones that I have run across have been very.... skiddish. But either way I wouldn't of chanced it either since I don't know what you pulled up with your stringer. +1 what you saw definitely could have been a water moccasin, but in my experience, the brown water snakes are much more aggressive than the water moccasins. I've stepped on a couple water snakes on the SA river, but although they did hiss at me, they never tried to strike. Just slithered away into the water.
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Re: Dilemma - Moccasin Bit Red Ears on Stringer
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05/14/11 02:10 PM
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Don Morey
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I know a number of fisherman who mistake diamond back water snakes (not dangerous) with water moccasins. Brushy Creek and the San Gabriel are loaded with Diamond Back Water Snakes some look pretty big too. Mostly when I see them they are underwater searching cracks in the rocks. But I've never seen one go after fish yet. I have seen some black colored snakes go after fish when reeling in but they are generally skinny not thick like some pictures I've seen of moccasins.
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