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Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
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05/08/11 10:12 PM
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Eland Slayer
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Alright guys.....I thought I would share the results of a little test I did this afternoon.
Due to my recent break-offs with two big fish on Lake Fork in the last month.....I was looking for a line to replace my good ol' Stren Original low-viz green monofilament. Obviously everyone said switch to fluorocarbon. A number of the guides here on TFF and others recommended Seaguar InvisX.....which is supposed to be much more abrasion resistant.
So I asked an employee at Academy for a 3 foot sample of the 20# Seaguar so that I could run a little test. At home, I also cut a 3 foot section of my 20# Stren Original. I did my own "abrasion resistance" test on the bricks of my house. And the results are.....
1. With the same amount of force used and the same technique.....the Seaguar was 200-300% MORE FRAYED than the Stren was. I definitely was not expecting that.
2. I then tested the break strength of both. I wasn't using a scale, but you could not tell the difference in the amount of force required to break either.
I will note that the fluoro had much less stretch than the mono.....and I am aware of the fact that it's supposed to be invisible in the water, and that it sinks. So, I'm not saying it's worthless, not at all. I just don't believe it is any more abrasion resistant than monofilament is. So is it REALLY worth 3-4 times the cost of mono?
You tell me.....
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Eland Slayer]
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05/08/11 10:18 PM
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RedRaider3933
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Yes. I just started using fluoro frequently after using mono forever. My hook up ratio is ridiculously better, I have yet to break it on a hook set (which I would do quite a bit with mono), and I have gotten a lot more bites with fluoro. Its also much easier to cast and much more sensitive than mono.
The fluoro vs. mono debate is like the tungsten vs. lead debate. A lot of people will support both sides. It all comes down to what works for you, and what you are most confident with. It that means throwing mono then so be it.
Go Tech
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Eland Slayer]
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05/08/11 10:20 PM
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brokenjeep
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I like Floro for the sensitivity and lack of stretch even though it will fray more, that is why I buy it in 2000yd spools and re-spool and re-tie often.
I use mono for top water and cranks.
When you fish Fork and want to catch big fish you should expect to buy more line.
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: brokenjeep]
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05/08/11 10:22 PM
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5Redman8
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Was it soaked wet or did you try the test dry.
TackleTour.com has done their own series of tests.....
Tests don't mean squat.....real life does!
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Eland Slayer]
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05/08/11 10:26 PM
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kamerai
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I use Flouro when I feel that sensitivity is key, (Jigs, Worms, soft plastics). Over the years I have developed confidence in the line, however, I still use Stren Mono on spinnerbaits, topwater and some crankbait. I feel that your test are right on, however, the positives far outway the negatives. Check your line often.
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: kamerai]
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05/08/11 10:31 PM
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Mark Perry
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Compare line diameter to line diameter and not lb test ize. Chances are the mono was a LOT bigger in diameter so it renders a head to head test flawed.
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: 5Redman8]
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05/08/11 10:33 PM
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ezbassin
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Was it soaked wet or did you try the test dry.
TackleTour.com has done their own series of tests.....
Tests don't mean squat.....real life does!
I agree. Some of the lines that "tested" better than others in the TackleTour test were not better in actual "real world, on the water" usage.
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: ezbassin]
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05/08/11 11:06 PM
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Fish AKA Jerry
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Gee..how did we ever catch a stupid fish in the old days?? Line,baits,rods,reels, I tend to believe that most people tend to over think things just a little.
FREYED KNOT
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Fish AKA Jerry]
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05/08/11 11:09 PM
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Dude Lebowski
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The sensitivity of flourocarbon is unbelievable. You can feel the slightest "tick".
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Dude Lebowski]
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05/08/11 11:20 PM
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Outdoordude
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I trust that you did your test with no bias and that your results are sound, but I'm not too worried about an artificial abrasion test because the large fish that I've pulled out of "there's no way in ----" situations using Seaguar CarbonPro have proven more to me than any test result. I'm happy to pay 20-25 bucks a pack for something I know wont let me down.
Scott Jones
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Dude Lebowski]
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05/08/11 11:26 PM
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crazyoutdoorsman
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Really this is just a debate of what people have more confidence in. Many people, including myself, feel that fluorocarbon helps catch more fish, but honestly it doesn't make a huge difference in most situations when compared to a quality monofilament.However, weightless plastics are an exception as the sinking properties of fluorocarbon greatly enhance the sensitivity of the rig. Bottom line is that fluorocarbon lines(especially invisx) are worth a shot, but if you have a line that you have a great deal of confidence in there is no real NEED to switch, but it might help. Good luck  just my 2 cents
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: crazyoutdoorsman]
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05/08/11 11:32 PM
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Procowboy
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I have just recently started using Florocarbon line. It seems to have ALOT of memory. Every time it comes off the reel on every cast, its all kinked up. Seems worse than the old mono. Just my opinion.
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Fish AKA Jerry]
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05/08/11 11:45 PM
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Ted Dyer
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Gee..how did we ever catch a stupid fish in the old days?? Line,baits,rods,reels, I tend to believe that most people tend to over think things just a little. What he said!
 The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Fish AKA Jerry]
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05/09/11 01:21 AM
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lamoon78
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Gee..how did we ever catch a stupid fish in the old days?? Line,baits,rods,reels, I tend to believe that most people tend to over think things just a little. Exactly what I was thinking I have tried different kinds of Floro and known are worth a darn if you ask me I just stick with my mono and braid.
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Re: Fluorocarbon - is it all hype?
[Re: Procowboy]
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05/09/11 01:29 AM
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RedRaider3933
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I have just recently started using Florocarbon line. It seems to have ALOT of memory. Every time it comes off the reel on every cast, its all kinked up. Seems worse than the old mono. Just my opinion. Use line treatment when ever you spool it on the reel. Give it 2 or 3 good sprays 2 or 3 times during the spooling process and helps with memory big time. It will also help the fluoro last longer.
Go Tech
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