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Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: Big Brown Bass] #5982362 03/23/11 03:03 AM
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Anyone seen any improvement on Gbury with the warming weather?

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: HHBASS] #5983044 03/23/11 12:50 PM
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I was up and down the lake yesterday and I didn't see any dying fish..But the damage has already been done..

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: Chris Borden] #5984640 03/23/11 07:46 PM
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Good to see a positive message coming from here about Whitney. It's too bad about Granbury and their kil, however we on Whitney are happy that it didn't get here this year. Lets hope we have seen the last of that dreaded algea!


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Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: structure man (Granbury)] #5984883 03/23/11 08:46 PM
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Well I have fished hard the past two days and I haven't even so much as got a bump..Hopefully someone else is having better luck.This fatboy is going to start going to Cleburne from now on.

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: UTHellraiser] #5984978 03/23/11 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: UTHellraiser
...The cause being fertilizer runoff from farming/ranching operations creating the right water conditions for it to thrive and reach a large number of fish. There are state programs in place to educate and encourage farmers to properly apply fertilizer or decrease runoff from cattle operations, but they are about to get cut with every other "big government money waster" out there trying to improve how we conserve our resources. The algal bloom is not a natural process that we have to deal with, it can be effectively reduced with the right corrective action.
Do you have data to back up these claims? Algae (or algal) blooms in general may fit into these circumstances, but Golden Algae is an entirely different creature. My understanding is that GA needs two basic conditions to flourish. High water salinity and an absence of other types of algae such as green and blue/green algae. The Brazos has plenty of salt thanks to its drainage through the salt flats of West Texas. And the beneficial algae like the green and blue/green varieties often die off during extended cold periods, leaving an ecological niche for the GA to occupy. As soon as the water warms and the beneficial alga's return, they choke out the GA.

In the interest of full disclosure, I haven't been involved in that business since 2005 when I worked for the Brazos River Authority, so there may be more recent data available.


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Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: Texan Til I Die] #6038042 04/06/11 04:45 PM
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Depends on what you will accept as data. I could go dig back into some research I've read and cite for the interested scientist, but am not going to wish that on a fishing forum smile PM me if you are interested and I'll send some stuff along.

Still a lot of unknowns about GA, but, they do indirectly thrive and benefit from the decreased oxygen levels and nitrogen/ phosphorous loading from farming ops and water treatment facilities. Golden algae consumes many of the organisms that benefit from nutrient deposits in our water systems, so the idea that they compete with other algae for anything other than photosynthesis space would be questionable.

From what I've read, low(er) levels of blue/green algae is correlated with GA blooms, but the high salinity suggestion is being disputed as an effect of elevated Golden Algae presence in the water as opposed to a favorable condition for bloom. Have not read anything about salt flat runoff.. interested in the data though.

None of this explains why Lake Waco has dodged a major kill...

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: UTHellraiser] #6039405 04/06/11 10:38 PM
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I would say the major reason is the brazos does not run into Lake Waco.

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: NetBoy72] #6039408 04/06/11 10:40 PM
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Although, Lake Waco did have a Phosphorus problem.

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: NetBoy72] #6039774 04/07/11 12:46 AM
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Waco has so much green alge Its scary

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: Phoenix 920 Pro xp] #6041193 04/07/11 12:41 PM
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The biologist say that Waco has so much golden algea that it is scary too. We just have not had any blooms or kills from it.

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: NetBoy72] #6055690 04/11/11 03:17 PM
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Logical conclusion, but GA is present in Lake Waco and has yet to produce fish kills similar to other area lakes. Could be the nutrient content being added to the brazos through farming and water treatment (the theory I support) but nothing concrete.

Have not found any data to suggest an explanation, but there are journal submissions that essentially say "we dont know why lake waco does not have GA blooms consistent with area lakes".. if you find something otherwise, pitch it this way, I've been interested in these fish kills since I first started seeing them in the early 2000s.

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: UTHellraiser] #6057259 04/11/11 09:34 PM
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Brazos River Basin

On Tuesday, water samples were collected from Possum Kingdom Reservoir. The sample from the dam contained low numbers of golden alga cells and the water was not toxic. The Johnson Road site also contained low numbers of cells but the water was slightly toxic. Sandy Beach and the Deep Elm Arm both contained moderate levels of golden alga and moderately toxic water.

A bit of good news for Lake Granbury: the Brazos River Authority visited the lake this week and found little to no fresh dead fish on the lake. Water samples confirm that the lake is still toxic, and high concentrations of golden alga were found in samples collected from the dam, US 377 and FM 51.

The good news continues for Lake Whitney, where Wednesdays water samples showed no golden alga or toxic water at McCowan Valley or Steele Creek and low cell concentrations with nontoxic water at Lofers Bend.

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: Chris Borden] #6086611 04/19/11 01:57 PM
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Some good news on the GA problem.

http://twri.tamu.edu/reports/2010/tr392/tr392.pdf


Some of this we knew, but the amonia may help.

Re: Golden Alge Bloom On Brazos River, Lake Granbury, Lake Whitney [Re: laketrash] #6087353 04/19/11 05:17 PM
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Some good news on the GA problem.

http://twri.tamu.edu/reports/2010/tr392/tr392.pdf


Some of this we knew, but the amonia may help.


Good link, lots of heavy data, and looks like recent data has made some of the info I've offered obsolete smile but I pulled these two paragraphs from the paper that I think are worth reading for those who didnt make it down that far:

"Our synopsis of the multiple lake comparison over a 10-year period, then, is that P.
parvum blooms (and annual population maxima for the period after early-spring 2007)
were recurrent winter phenomena in this area of the south-central USA. Bloom initiation
and development only occurred at a time of year when inflows were low, and large fishkilling
blooms occurred only when salinity was higher. Bloom termination followed high
inflow events, likely through direct flushing of cells and indirect physiological affects.
This linkage between incidence of P. parvum blooms, inflows and salinity raises concern
because sequestration of water continues to increase in this area with rising human
population. Combined with variations in precipitation and evaporation predicted from
climate change, flows in this area may decrease by 60% (Cai and McCarl, 2009).
Though not the focus of climate change models, it is likely that increased evaporation
rates associated with regional warming will also result in higher salinity. Consequently,
both human population increase and climate change may lead to an increased incidence
of P. parvum blooms........(later in the report)..This study underscores the importance of hydraulic flushing as a mechanism terminating
P. parvum blooms in lakes of the south-central USA. In the decades to come, it is likely
that the magnitude of lake-flushing events will decrease as human populations expand
and the number of water impoundments increases. The effects of decreased through-flow
might be exacerbated by climate change as well, as precipitation patterns alter. It may be
that the affects of reduced through-flows and likely persistence of blooms can be offset
by management efforts aimed at altering other factors influential to P. parvum bloom
dynamics. For example, blooms might be mitigated by localized fertilization in areas
where blooms develop in attempts to prevent toxin production (Barkoh et al. 2003,
Grover et al. 2007, Roelke et al. 2007, Errera et al. 2008), promoting growth of
phytoplankton that can suppress P. parvum through allelopathy (Grover et al. 2010,
Roelke et al. 2010), manipulations of pH to negate the potency of toxins (Valenti et al.2010), or introduction of natural predators and pathogens (Schwierzke et al. 2010). There
is much understanding still to be gained, however, before effective management of P.
parvum in lakes of the south-central USA can be implemented."

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