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Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: bgibson] #5858823 02/17/11 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: bgibson
COE regulations will supersede Tx law as far as carrying firearms on any body of water under their control.
we need to fix that.

Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: Ken Gaby] #5859040 02/17/11 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: TRex368
That's a good question Frenzy! "How many of ya'll have actually pulled your gun in self-defense while fishing? Just curious."

just remember that after you pull the gun you better be ready and able to use it. Then after the smoke clears you had really better be ready to take the heat cause it's gonna get turned up......
It does not end when the bad guy hits the ground. It only just begins at that point. All of you who are screaming about your Constitutional Rights will find out just how little you actually know about that after you shoot someone! God Bless each and every one of you and I hope and pray that you never have to know.


Unfortunatly too true

Originally Posted By: Ken Gaby
I've posed the COE question to the TSRA legislative rep for clarification. I also asked what the COE position is for CHL holders on COE lakes. May not get an answer right away of course.


this response should be interesting, I"m interested to hear what they say


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Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: 1FowlFishn] #5862969 02/18/11 05:30 AM
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In my opinion, for what that's worth, think of carrying on a military installation. It's owned and operated by the military, and they make, interpret and enforce the rules. I wouldn't try to take a CCW onto an AFB or Army post. If I did I wouldn't tell anyone about it.

Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: monsterfireworks] #5863107 02/18/11 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: monsterfireworks
Why doesn't everyone that wants to carry a hand gun on there boat just get your CDL.

I can't see to many situations where you would need a pistol on a boat.

If you think a pistol is going to help you on falcon good luck. You will put max 15 holes in their boat while they spray you with 45-100 lol.

Excellent point TREX


I guess I'm pretty new here so people can say what they want, but im kind of confused why you think somebody need a COMMERICIAL DRIVERS LICENSE to carry a pistol on a boat? Please inform me why that is.

Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: Bob Smith] #5864271 02/18/11 05:52 PM
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It is a good government, but it seems to be getting worse. I would have to agree with Jfred in that the current legislators seem to be intentionally stating all bills in a very verbose, yet vague way so that nothing really gets accomplished. I also agree with you (Bob Smith) that the key to getting the government back on track is to get some men with integrity, wisdom, and a strong back bone elected. If we vote and they actually do something in office, the world would be a much better place.


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Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: TRex368] #5867889 02/19/11 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: TRex368
"How many of ya'll have actually pulled your gun in self-defense while fishing? Just curious."


I have...and it wasn't a Cartel, smartxxx. Apparently I got too close to a baited hole in the Sulfur River,& 2 locals didn't like it. All of a sudden, I was hit in the face by the buttstock of a rifle. Out of luck, I had carried a .357 in case I crossed paths with a tasty pig while fishing. When I reached for it, they ran. Never in a thousand years would I have thought I needed a gun for self defense where I was fishing. That was a very good lessson, and now I always carry. Don't have a CC permit, because I have God's permission and a 2nd.
Any more questions?

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Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: bluesea112] #5918624 03/04/11 11:36 PM
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Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: nuecesar] #5919779 03/05/11 04:20 AM
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Ya, man, when you're on the water, you don't wanna have to take no BS off nobody.

Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: Frenzy] #5924786 03/06/11 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Frenzy
How many of ya'll have actually pulled your gun in self-defense while fishing? Just curious.


Twice in the last 13 years, both at Ray Hubbard.

The first time was up the river with my then 17 year old, bountifully built girlfriend. Four guys right out of Deliverance in a battered tri-hull saw me catch a big bass, then crowded my spot. After they crossed my line twice, I politely reminded them to be polite and wait their turn.

They took offense to that and a verbal altercation resulted, escalating to promises to do me great harm, followed by a group intimate assault on my GF. One of 'em threw a big egg sinker very hard at me, and out came the Glock. They fled, and I later passed them broken down by the golf course.

The second was at the north Dalrock ramp. I'm generally the last to leave, and while in the very vulnerable position of loading the boat at night at an empty ramp, a group of young thugs approached, wanting to rob me. Their plan was thwarted by my sidearm and a calm, firm attitude.

Either or both of those situation could have gotten quite unpleasant had I been unarmed. I'd hate for my mom to cry for months simply because some strangers insisted upon acting like scumbags. She's too nice a lady to suffer such a thing.

People have a duty to protect themselves.


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Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: Archie Bunker] #5928946 03/07/11 11:11 PM
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I really don't understand why anybody is criticizing anyone who chooses to carry a gun. I agree there are places that are "more dangerous" than other places and you should consider the risks. I have also heard it said over and over.. "I never thought that would happen here", or I never thought that would happen to me". It really doesn't matter if your on the water, in Highland Park, or in South Dallas, crime happens everywhere at any time. Sure you hopefully will have the choice to quickly remove yourself from the situation which is always the first and best choice, but it's not always an option. I carry everywhere, I do have a CHL, I don't carry my gun to feel big, I do it to protect myself, hard earned property as well as any person in my boat etc.... I would prefer an equal playing field or better yet give me the advantage. I never want to pull my gun and most people who are in my company never know I have it.

Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: lost] #5929310 03/08/11 12:50 AM
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The Government has always wanted to get rid of the 2nd amendment because Politicians would feel better controlling unarmed people rather than dealing with armed citizens .

I have always thought that the 2nd amendment was put into affect to protect us from the new Government that was being formed at the time ( just my opinion )


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Originally Posted By: lost
I really don't understand why anybody is criticizing anyone who chooses to carry a gun. I agree there are places that are "more dangerous" than other places and you should consider the risks. I have also heard it said over and over.. "I never thought that would happen here", or I never thought that would happen to me". It really doesn't matter if your on the water, in Highland Park, or in South Dallas, crime happens everywhere at any time. Sure you hopefully will have the choice to quickly remove yourself from the situation which is always the first and best choice, but it's not always an option. I carry everywhere, I do have a CHL, I don't carry my gun to feel big, I do it to protect myself, hard earned property as well as any person in my boat etc.... I would prefer an equal playing field or better yet give me the advantage. I never want to pull my gun and most people who are in my company never know I have it.
Well Said!That pretty well sums it up!

Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: grisher] #5938203 03/10/11 08:41 PM
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I figured everyone is armed since I am...

Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: bluesea112] #5938545 03/10/11 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: bluesea112
Originally Posted By: TRex368
"How many of ya'll have actually pulled your gun in self-defense while fishing? Just curious."


I have...and it wasn't a Cartel, smartxxx. Apparently I got too close to a baited hole in the Sulfur River,& 2 locals didn't like it. All of a sudden, I was hit in the face by the buttstock of a rifle. Out of luck, I had carried a .357 in case I crossed paths with a tasty pig while fishing. When I reached for it, they ran. Never in a thousand years would I have thought I needed a gun for self defense where I was fishing. That was a very good lessson, and now I always carry. Don't have a CC permit, because I have God's permission and a 2nd.
Any more questions?



I think you misinterpreted why I posted. I wasn't tryin to be a smartass, I just wanted to hear some of the legitimate stories of times when carrying a gun was a good thing, not just all the macho [censored]. I'm all for people carrying guns so long as they don't do it illegaly. If I had a permit, I'd carry too, I've just never gotten around to getting one. I do own alot of guns though.


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Re: Carrying a gun in your boat [Re: Frenzy] #5938779 03/10/11 10:38 PM
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Here is what the Texas Penal Code actually says. I've posted a couple of times on here regarding this and still feel the same way as I did before, but if your that worried about it arm yourself with knowledge first. Then get a shotgun!


http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/?link=PE
Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control.(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:(1) the handgun is in plain view; or(2) the person is:(A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic;(B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or(C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01.(a-2) For purposes of this section, "premises" includes real property and a recreational vehicle that is being used as living quarters, regardless of whether that use is temporary or permanent. In this subsection, "recreational vehicle" means a motor vehicle primarily designed as temporary living quarters or a vehicle that contains temporary living quarters and is designed to be towed by a motor vehicle. The term includes a travel trailer, camping trailer, truck camper, motor home, and horse trailer with living quarters.(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), an offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.(c) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed on any premises licensed or issued a permit by this state for the sale of alcoholic beverages.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1975, 64th Leg., p. 109, ch. 49, Sec. 1, eff. April 15, 1975; Acts 1975, 64th Leg., p. 918, ch. 342, Sec. 14, eff. Sept. 1, 1975; Acts 1975, 64th Leg., p. 1330, ch. 494, Sec. 2, eff. June 19, 1975; Acts 1977, 65th Leg., p. 1879, ch. 746, Sec. 26, eff. Aug. 29, 1977; Acts 1981, 67th Leg., p. 2273, ch. 552, Sec. 1, eff. Aug. 31, 1981; Acts 1983, 68th Leg., p. 5113, ch. 931, Sec. 1, eff. Aug. 29, 1983; Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 262, Sec. 21, eff. Sept. 1, 1987; Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 873, Sec. 25, eff. Sept. 1, 1987; Acts 1991, 72nd Leg., ch. 168, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1991. Redesignated from Penal Code Sec. 46.02, 46.03 and amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994. Amended by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 229, Sec. 2, eff. Sept. 1, 1995; Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 318, Sec. 16, eff. Sept. 1, 1995; Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 754, Sec. 15, eff. Sept. 1, 1995; Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 790, Sec. 16, eff. Sept. 1, 1995; Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 998, Sec. 3, eff. Sept. 1, 1995; Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 10.02, eff. Sept. 1, 1997; Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1221, Sec. 1, eff. June 20, 1997; Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 1261, Sec. 24, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.Amended by: Acts 2007, 80th Leg., R.S., Ch. 693, Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2007.


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