Ok, i'm looking to upgrade my rods and reels. I have the BFS black phantom rods, 2 helius reels, and a Daiwa Regal plus(i'm looking to keep this one). I've had SO much trouble with this setup, actually I broke one of the reels a few weeks back and had to fix it with a pair of forceps and a pocket knife. I really need to upgrade soon, so now is a good time after I got my new pod and alarms.

I'm considering getting either 2 more regals or a set of baitcasters for the no line twist feature (Carpmasters probably, I already have 1 regular 6500) What should I get?

And rods. I've been looking at these. I have no idea on what test curve I should get.
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/product.php?productid=17633&cat=363&page=1

and these
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/product.php?productid=18797&cat=363&page=1

and these
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/product.php?productid=17722&cat=363&page=1

and finally these
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/product.php?productid=17776&cat=363&page=1

I'm probably gonna get the rods first then upgrade the reels. What should I go with? I'm lost!

Looks like everyone is buying new tackle this year.

Out of the four you had links to I would go with the Nash and Fox. I don't care for chub, but some will love them.

I would go with at least a 3 pound test curve. I have both 3 and 3.25 rods. I also have the Daiwa Regal plus baitrunner reels both in the 4000 series and the 4500 series and really like them.. The regal plusses have a line twist reduction feature, and I think they cost less than the Carpmasters. Buy the best that you can afford.

If you go with the Chub, I've heard good things about the Outkast and it's only $10 more.

If you are looking to save money, I have been happy with the 2 rods of these that I have purchased. They have more coming in stock in March. I think the Chubs are a step above these most likely, especially if you get the 50mm butt ring.

https://www.carp-kit.com/store/product_i...f4b55148284f51d

Thanks guys! What test curves should I look at? Mine right now are either 2.75 or 3.0

i'd keep em at 2.75 or 3

Get the 3.0 tc and they will suit you fine

Black phantoms are 2.5; get 3.0s.
You'd do great with your Regal +s. Carpmasters, even used, are usually $100+

I have a warrior. Fox rods are over priced. The snooper is as good if not better. The outkast has the best blank. The seen alot of crushed/snapped nash rods returned when I worked at a tackle shop. The carbons pretty thin. Dunno about the newer years tho its been a few years.

Stupid phone. I think u can make sense of that tho lol

So you are saying I should go with the Outcasts?

I would definatly get the outcasts but I haven't seen the newer nash rods. My guess would be thin as before.

EDIT EDIT EDIT - Sorry, thought you wrote Black Widows!!!


I have 3.25 TCs and there are more coming to the states from the UK in march on carp-kit

as I said before, outkast and cabela's saltsrikers...both have lifetime warranty's hard to beat that...I haver personally owned both and can't find a reason to spend more money on medium range kit.

I sold my outkast, after having 2 replaced at no charge and the broken rods being at no fault of manufacturing.

I still use my reels from cabela's...they own.