jump a purple post and color blinde wont help ya

one things fer sure , had the game warden walked up on him you surely would have seen "his-butt-panic" hehe w/r/j

amen, henry! wildlife management rules exist for a reason. enforce the rules across the board. period.

I said that because he answerd my "insult" by saying "we have caught 5." He was not informing me that they have caught 5, but he was mocking by saying it. It was as if he was saying "we have caught 5 doing this... how many have you caught?!" thank your for all of the info

Any time you see something like this ... no matter who the violator ... call "Operation Game Thief" toll-free at 1-800-792-GAME.

The also sometimes pay rewards, but keeping this kind of stuff in check is reward enough.

Like the police, they can't come if you don't call them. The Austin office immediately contacts your area warden. If the violator leaves, be sure to get a license plate number and pass it on to the warden.

I know, and from experience, that Operation Game Thief works ... but again, only if the public participates.

Best to all ...

Boz

CALM DOWN GUYS!

The man is obviously trying to get some food for his family, it is the state who has portrayed a crime against humanity. $28 for a license that's a week's worth of gas for some people and hey I drive a camry. Talk to the man and let him know he's wrong or get some spanish speaking friends or some literature to let him know. And be nice, give him the fish you throw back. Fishing is just a sport to some of us, some of us it's food, some of us it's a hobby, some of us it's a way of life. My God where's our compassion when a fisherman is ready to rat out another fisherman for trying to feed his family.

Jhn 21:5 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.

Jhn 21:6 And he said unto them, Cast the net on the right side of the ship, and ye shall find. They cast therefore, and now they were not able to draw it for the multitude of fishes.

I mean a couple of weekends ago we were all hooting and hollering watching our brother's enter and win a fishing tourneyment in lewisville. The guy made $100,000 and we all cheer for him and we don't get a dime of that money and now one of our fellow fisherman is trying to feed his family and we are upset. That's what's wrong with America today we love those who entertain us more than we do those who are just trying to maintain!

Nice try, Tim, Christ taught to respect the authority of man ("Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's.") and that no human had authority that God didn't allow them to have. A person can feed his/her family and still obey the law. Bream can be caught by anyone, as can catfish, with a minimal investment in a Snoopy pole and some earthworms or crickets. You want to complain about the price of a license? Who do you think would pay for it if unregulated "fishing" of this sort put a serious dent in the gamefish population, and lakes had to be restocked, hmm? I'm all for compassion and sharing legally caught fish with those who need it, but turning a blind eye to those who ignore the law is not the answer! Like Larry said, 1-800-792-GAME.

Where do you get off, Pal?! I don't think that Jesus is telling this guy to break the law. If the man wanted to feed his family, he should be working; not fishing. Just my 2 cents.

I really like this thread and even though sometimes it goes in circles it has forced me to think from quite a few different angles. I would be lying if I were to say I have never formed racial stereotypes, as I honestly believe most of us naturally do, but I really think we should try to consciously fight them. Every person deserves the chance not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Lawbreakers need to pay a price, and what is true is true (if the man was from Mexico, he was from Mexico), although how that is relevant to fishing I do not know. Speaking for myself, I have easily spent more time and money repairing and replacing $20-25 cast nets than I have on rods and reels the past few years, and even if I hadn't, I just don't think we can rationalize the law being broken for this man. While reading this, the thoughts that Tim McCullough shared definitely crossed my mind, and knowing me I would have probably acted the way he described had I watched the man, but then I may as well just rationalize ever law I have ever broke and sooner or later I would have complete disregard for all laws. If we do respect and love this country we must maintain and uphold the laws that keep it stable, whether we agree or not. Exceptions cannot be made depending on each circumstance. I can easily understand everyone's argument throughout this thread from the people mad about illegal immigration to the people who think he should be able to keep the fish to feed his family, but we live here and pay our taxes in trust that our legal system will keep us secure and stable. I think we should trust our laws, our enforcement, our game wardens, and our judges. We are free to think what we want, but we are obligated to call this man in and let the game wardens do what we pay them to do.

Not directly related to this....but;

I posted a bit on a similar situation that happened this past weekend at a CFL in Mesquite.
I seen two Mideastern types throwing 5' bait net(thats 10 ft diameter folks) in the little sub 4 acre pond. He was haulin the little 2 and 3 inch bream out and they were putting them in a walmart sack.
They kept throwing their nets where ever they saw folks(manily kids) catching fish.
They finally worked their way over to me and this after one father had asked them to stop throwing their net around his son and his friends lines, and asked if he could throw his net near me.
Well Im 5'10", 185 wide shouldered leather skined crew cut looking type not a 12 year old kid, so I guess he thought courtesy was the the standard in my case, as comapred to the smaller kids.
I had watched him and seen the interaction of the father trying to protect his kids fishing,I was already getin irratated at the thoguht of the guy tossing a the net in the small lake and I simply wheeled on the guy and told him ina flat tone,No Sir Id rather not!
I proceeded to explain that you cant have trotlines,you cant have have saine nets,you cant throw bait nets and more importantly you cant disrupt these families at this community lake.
His response Im licnesed fisherman I can fish here. I told him yes he can but not with a net on a community fishing lake!
The guy muttered something in his native tounge,Im sure I got a"Blessing" and he and his larger buddy, turned and walked off.
I felt bad cause me being a Redneck type and he being a MidEasterner likely thoguht I was being a bully.But soemthin had to be said.
Then... I had to wonder if they were going to come back with "somethin" catch my drift? And I was wondering if I may need to go get my "somethin" out of the truck?
But you know before Id do that at a place as nice and family oriented, Id just leave than risk any riddiculous incident at family oriented place.
Oh the father came over and thanked me for standing up to these guys that were basicaly bullying these kids and obviously catching bait fish to take to Ray Hubard or some where from the community.
Wasnt trying to be ahero..just with the way things are these days...right is right.Not all this PC **** that tries to cloud everything.

Someone said the TPWD number is on the back of the licnese? where? I havea super combo...buy one every year..doesnt have the number anywhere I can see.
Anywyas...Its a city park issue anyway right?
The Father said he new one of the admins in mesquite and was going to call and see if we were right. Imn ot abully type,seen enough issues in my life,but wont take folks of any race acting a fool around kids and stealing resources.

if you want regulations then come up here and learn a thing or two about how regulations ought to be enforced.

say you catch a 28 inch striper. (minimum is 28in). warden pulls up to your boat, asks what you caught, you pull out a huge bass, he measures it and finds it to be 27.5". suddenly, you're being fined, and everything you used to catch that fish is confiscated (all rods, reels, bait, and sometimes even the boat). every one of us on here that have fished for longer than a year know how deeply that would hurt our pocket books. now include the fact that you can't use anything more that two hooks per person, no trotlines, no juglines, no bowfishing, no castnets; and there is nothing wrong with any of these forms of fishing; and that adds up to huge regulations, huge fines, HUGE IMPACTS.

now in this case, had their castnets been taken away, and even the five gallon buckets that bank fishermen are so known for and suddenly they are directly impacted by being caught. what's it going to do to get a fine or possibly a court date if no one is going to really enforce it and put out warrants and LOOK for these people should they choose to not pay.

now let's put it directly to you, the people on the forum. how many of us don't go a single mile over the speed limit. do we actually go 65 when it's posted 65? no. do we get tickets for going 68 in a 65? no. do we feel guilty about going 68 in a 65? no. when and if we do get a ticket for going 68 in a 65 do we say, "well, thanks for letting me know officer, i don't know what i was thinking, i really deserved that one!" no! but those regulations are there for a reason, right? at least that's what i'm hearing. give me an honest person who never ever ever goes a mile over the speed limit and let him say what he wants to say. we've all rushed to work, in a fast moving car, threatening the lives of the hundreds of people in the cars that we pass by on the road every day. but when it comes to twenty fish in a creek losing their lives at such a small stage we are shocked and appauled. is getting to work on time worth threatening the lives of those hundreds of people? no. are the lives of a few small fish worth being eaten? i'd hope we think so. after all, we don't feel guilty about eating the other thousands of pounds of meat that each year.

now, do you still want to enforce each and every regulation?

mudcat...

"Yet most of the working poor come from homes where the struggles of the 1930s are all too familiar. Poor parents cannot stretch their resources to take care of their children's needs, much less the demands they make when their better-off peers are buying a new CD or a special kind of jacket-the kinds of frills that middle-class families routinely provide for their teens (along with the second telephone line, access to a car, and many other expensive itmes). Inner-city kids cannot even dream of such luxuries. Even finding the funds to pay for transporation, basic clothing, bookds, and other necessary expenses is hard for these families...

Minimum wage jobs cannot buy real economic independence; they cannot cover the full cost of living, including rent, food, and the rest of an adult's monthly needs. What Jessica can do with her earnings is cover the marginal cost of her presence in the household, leaving something over every week to contribute to the core cost of maintaining the houshold."

-Katherine S. Newman. "No Shame in My Game"

say what you want to say, but you can't say that families don't try. there are just too many people and too few good jobs out there. "should be working; not fishing." if you had no money and needed to go to the grocery store for food what would you do? what if you had no groceries? none. that castnet is looking a little more tempting now isn't it? even if he was working, even if he did find a job he's got to go get groceries sometime.

Where's the frickin' moderator for this forum. Kill this one. What a beating. Call the law if they're .... Breakin' the law, Breakin' the law, Breakin' the law

enough said.

Tim,

Very good point and i appreciated it, i did not think that i posted this little subject and would cost such a mess. I also think that people just take it so serious and going the wrong way but points are well taken. thanks