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Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: sexycarpenter] #5291672 09/10/10 07:24 PM
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A couple years ago, one of those giant stuffed fish from bass pro showed up on the site.

I think it was Dave and Justin's doing.

Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: fwbret/txfishes] #5291726 09/10/10 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: fwbret/txfishes
A couple years ago, one of those giant stuffed fish from bass pro showed up on the site.

I think it was Dave and Justin's doing.

how many points did Dave get?


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Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: sexycarpenter] #5291730 09/10/10 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: sexycarpenter
While I was at Texoma last week I briefly entertained the idea of putting a clouser in the mouths of about 50 fish that were washed up dead on the bank, BUT since I do have some self respect and felt as though Robin just might ban me for life I decided against it. But I'd totally be in like 15th place.

I could have entered them all as the bonefish's lesser known cousin the
bony fish.

Now if I could just remember to take the contest image off my printer and place it in my fishin' bag i'd be in business...
"well they were alive last time I looked!"


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Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: rrhyne56] #5291749 09/10/10 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: rrhyne56
Originally Posted By: fwbret/txfishes
A couple years ago, one of those giant stuffed fish from bass pro showed up on the site.

I think it was Dave and Justin's doing.

how many points did Dave get?



He won the first multispecies contest, if I remember correctly.

I don't think any points were awarded for the pillow-fish though, although I did get a good laugh out of it.


I gotta find that photo.....

Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: fwbret/txfishes] #5291813 09/10/10 08:04 PM
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I blew it! I meant points for the pillow fish smile


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Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: fwbret/txfishes] #5292056 09/10/10 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: fwbret/txfishes

I'd think self respect.


That right there made my day. LMAO.

Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: fwbret/txfishes] #5292873 09/11/10 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: fwbret/txfishes



I'd think self respect.

Hell, the same thing that keeps them from grabbing a seine and taking a photo of every fish in a creek.



Hey Bret,
Since I lost all my self respect years ago, is OK if I use a cast net for the contest? I'll tie clousers to the outer band to be legit. How many points are Gizzard and Threadfin Shad? One more request. Since I already have a TFO Clouser rod. Can I get a lap dance instead when I win? (Prefer female, but a good trans will work.)

Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: SBridgess] #5292881 09/11/10 02:01 AM
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Oh, also, I would like some of those golden eggs but please wash them after you... discharge them.

Thanks.

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I'd think self respect.

Hell, the same thing that keeps them from grabbing a seine and taking a photo of every fish in a creek.



Hey Bret,
Since I lost all my self respect years ago, is OK if I use a cast net for the contest? I'll tie clousers to the outer band to be legit. How many points are Gizzard and Threadfin Shad? One more request. Since I already have a TFO Clouser rod. Can I get a lap dance instead when I win? (Prefer female, but a good trans will work.)


post of the week.

Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: fwbret/txfishes] #5297088 09/12/10 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: fwbret/txfishes
All these numbers were based 2 years ago from the members at txfishes (and modified each time).

They work fairly well where they are, and are often changed up a little after each contest.

As to why the crappies are set where they are? Just because *you've* only caught a few on the fly, doesn't mean that others can't go and shoot docks for dozens and dozens in a day (and clouser deep minnows work well for this).

The reason blue cats are less for seconds than others? because they are far more likely to chase down a live shad than channels. Try a tailrace, there is water there, fish live in it.

Some of the others are based on how much they school up (or at least pile up)compared to others.

Furthmore, some people have just become better at catching certain species of fish (and a very few have become good at catching many species of fish).

There was a thought process (from active members on TXFishes) to this, we did not simply pull numbers from a hat.

If you don't feel they are fair, a)do not participate (and more importantly, don't complain), write your own code for tallying them up and start a competition. Or b)next time the point values are being discussed, provide input when it is actually helpful.


I appreciate the support from those that gave it though.



I agree with Bret, seeems as though we can't please sunfishfly, he wanted to change the rules of the FOTM contest also....


Plus, IMO, If you aint drinking, you aint mowing.
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Originally Posted By: BHR

I agree with Bret, seeems as though we can't please sunfishfly, he wanted to change the rules of the FOTM contest also....


he's a teenage boy, can't ever please 'em, just tolerate 'em best ya can bolt

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Originally Posted By: BHR
Originally Posted By: fwbret/txfishes
All these numbers were based 2 years ago from the members at txfishes (and modified each time).

They work fairly well where they are, and are often changed up a little after each contest.

As to why the crappies are set where they are? Just because *you've* only caught a few on the fly, doesn't mean that others can't go and shoot docks for dozens and dozens in a day (and clouser deep minnows work well for this).

The reason blue cats are less for seconds than others? because they are far more likely to chase down a live shad than channels. Try a tailrace, there is water there, fish live in it.

Some of the others are based on how much they school up (or at least pile up)compared to others.

Furthmore, some people have just become better at catching certain species of fish (and a very few have become good at catching many species of fish).

There was a thought process (from active members on TXFishes) to this, we did not simply pull numbers from a hat.

If you don't feel they are fair, a)do not participate (and more importantly, don't complain), write your own code for tallying them up and start a competition. Or b)next time the point values are being discussed, provide input when it is actually helpful.


I appreciate the support from those that gave it though.



I agree with Bret, seeems as though we can't please sunfishfly, he wanted to change the rules of the FOTM contest also....


First of all I never said I wanted to change the fotm rules. Second how is my input not helpfull? I'm never said we had to do this list. I agree entirely that its too late to change the rules, but I have a feeling that we are gonna have this contest next year and i at least wanted to change it a little for that. You are probably right that blue cats are more likely to chase down a clouser, but look at the results so far...no blue cats and about 18 channels caught. And about the crappie I'm sure that people get dozens of them a day, but I know bass are caught more often on clousers than crappie. The reason I didn't post this sooner? Because I didn't think to scroll down farther on the rules page. I'm sure you didn't pull numbers from a hat, but don't give me [censored] about something i'm trying to help with. I want to make this contest better, but I guess no one will listen...


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Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: Bass Bug] #5297655 09/13/10 12:13 AM
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I agree with Bret, seeems as though we can't please sunfishfly, he wanted to change the rules of the FOTM contest also....


he's a teenage boy, can't ever please 'em, just tolerate 'em best ya can bolt


True, mine is 19 and full of it sometimes laugh


Plus, IMO, If you aint drinking, you aint mowing.
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Originally Posted By: fwbret/txfishes
All these numbers were based 2 years ago from the members at txfishes (and modified each time).

They work fairly well where they are, and are often changed up a little after each contest.

As to why the crappies are set where they are? Just because *you've* only caught a few on the fly, doesn't mean that others can't go and shoot docks for dozens and dozens in a day (and clouser deep minnows work well for this).

The reason blue cats are less for seconds than others? because they are far more likely to chase down a live shad than channels. Try a tailrace, there is water there, fish live in it.

Some of the others are based on how much they school up (or at least pile up)compared to others.

Furthmore, some people have just become better at catching certain species of fish (and a very few have become good at catching many species of fish).

There was a thought process (from active members on TXFishes) to this, we did not simply pull numbers from a hat.

If you don't feel they are fair, a)do not participate (and more importantly, don't complain), write your own code for tallying them up and start a competition. Or b)next time the point values are being discussed, provide input when it is actually helpful.


I appreciate the support from those that gave it though.



I agree with Bret, seeems as though we can't please sunfishfly, he wanted to change the rules of the FOTM contest also....


First of all I never said I wanted to change the fotm rules. Second how is my input not helpfull? I'm never said we had to do this list. I agree entirely that its too late to change the rules, but I have a feeling that we are gonna have this contest next year and i at least wanted to change it a little for that. You are probably right that blue cats are more likely to chase down a clouser, but look at the results so far...no blue cats and about 18 channels caught. And about the crappie I'm sure that people get dozens of them a day, but I know bass are caught more often on clousers than crappie. The reason I didn't post this sooner? Because I didn't think to scroll down farther on the rules page. I'm sure you didn't pull numbers from a hat, but don't give me [censored] about something i'm trying to help with. I want to make this contest better, but I guess no one will listen...

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Re: revising the clouser contest point system [Re: Pondbass] #5297827 09/13/10 01:05 AM
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I don't really have a dog in this fight but I think ya'll should consider that although most of you are from D/FW & Austin this contest is statewide...I live in east Texas & can catch pickerel relatively easily (because they are here) but I have never caught a Rio Grande Perch/Cichlid because they ain't where I is. My point being that geographic boundaries have bearing on species availability. I think Bret has done a tremendous job with this as well as past contests and it would have been much better to voice opinions concerning rules prior to the start of the contest, to do so afterwards is in poor taste (trust me, I know all about poor taste)... maybe after the contest would be a better time to submit suggestions.

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