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Re: Theives At it again [Re: ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)] #5253510 08/30/10 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: SkeeterDon
Installed a Boat alarm from Tackle Smith. Great product and works well.

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I am sorry I have a hard time in believing a boat alarm would do much to stop a thief that has a little knowledge about alarms and boat wiring. I spent years in the car audio industry and I can think of several possible ways to bypass a boat alarm. It might help keep honest people honest but to a real thief a boat should be a piece of cake to disable an alarm. There is just too much exposed wiring on a boat for an alarm to be very effective. The best thing to do if possible is to put it in a garage.

Its like the old Locker Bars that everyone thought was a great idea. Right up until people used the winch strap on the boat to bust them off. Then they had your stuff and you needed fiberglass repairs



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Re: Theives At it again [Re: Team Brown Stripe] #5253594 08/30/10 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Team Brown Stripe
Originally Posted By: SkeeterDon
Installed a Boat alarm from Tackle Smith. Great product and works well.

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I am sorry I have a hard time in believing a boat alarm would do much to stop a thief that has a little knowledge about alarms and boat wiring. I spent years in the car audio industry and I can think of several possible ways to bypass a boat alarm. It might help keep honest people honest but to a real thief a boat should be a piece of cake to disable an alarm. There is just too much exposed wiring on a boat for an alarm to be very effective. The best thing to do if possible is to put it in a garage.

It’s like the old Locker Bars that everyone thought was a great idea…. Right up until people used the winch strap on the boat to bust them off…. Then they had your stuff and you needed fiberglass repairs…


A boat alarm is nothing more than a deterent, just like a locker bar. If a theif wants it, they will get it.

While this specific boat alarm will send an alarm to the pager, I am notified when it goes off. I have a vibration sensor on the boat and this weekend I had my boat outside with my graphs on it and was going to run up to the auto parts store to get something and decided to take them off. You know out of sight out of mind. I went to remove the graph and the alarm went off due to the vibration. I like that and I had forgot that I armed it. I will still remove my tackle at the place I am staying. If am one of twenty and my boat is the 4th and it goes off when they are trying to get in and the other 14 are spared, it has done its job.

It is only a deterent and not a failsafe. But is one more thing they would have to deal with, and if they don't know that this boat has an alarm. They will be surprised when it goes off and will be more surpised when someone walks out of the door. I can even set it where the horn is silent but I can still be notified by pager. Call the police and let them be caught in the act.


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Re: Theives At it again [Re: ChampionDon (SkeeterDon)] #5257856 08/31/10 06:42 PM
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I have a couple deterrents..two Dogo's and a pit. They sleep under the boat and are fed by the hitch. God help the man who tries to steal their shade or anything around it!!

Re: Theives At it again [Re: NTXSlab Hunter] #5257901 08/31/10 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: NTXSlab Hunter
I have a couple deterrents..two Dogo's and a pit. They sleep under the boat and are fed by the hitch. God help the man who tries to steal their shade or anything around it!!


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Re: Theives At it again [Re: NTXSlab Hunter] #5257904 08/31/10 06:56 PM
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Law Enforcement routinely allow folks to continue breaking the law in order to get a bigger case against them so it will put them away longer, or better yet, find out who the other players might be. Whether it's a crime ring braking into homes, a petty thief who is stealing and reselling to pawn shops, etc or a drug dealer, the police are always after the big fish, not the little players. They sometimes know about drug dealers and will put them on surveillance for months in order to try and bust a bigger ring. Just not worth the effort to bust some for small misdemeanors where they can post a bail, get probation and be back at it in short order.

Re: Theives At it again [Re: scott01] #5258055 08/31/10 07:32 PM
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Scott,

Your absolutly right, it does happen. Just really sad for the victims of all of those crimes. The other side of that coin is how many needless crimes against us would have been prevented by locking the law breakers up the first time. Not everyone of them can make bail right away. And if they continue to go in front of the Judge, in and out of jail, and begin to show a pattern, long term jail time will happen. I guess it's just another way to the same finish line.

I guess that ultimately I would not want myself or my family to be the victims of a crime because a known repeat offender was let go early or easily so they could build a case. Every night that scumbag spends in jail is a night that someone out there is safe!!

I had a co-worker once that had a son that was a known drug user, dealer, thief, and even had some violence. He kept getting off easy and all I can assume is that they were building a case on him. Problem is, I know first hand through the Father's testimony to me that it was sending the wrong message to his son. The message he got was that he could get away with anything and the punishment was never really that bad. Spend one night in jail (sometimes not), make bail (sign some papers), months later see the judge and promise he's a changed man. Then maybe get probation, or another small fine. Punishment was not that bad, and with a record it was hard to get hired anywhere. So with nothing better to do go out and steal, buy drugs, sell drugs, and make way more than he'd ever make flipping burgers at McDonald's. Occationally get caught, spend one night in jail, etc . . . . .

The father told me that he really believed that if his son would have gone to jail for real, the first time, that maybe it would have helped more. Not saying it's the laws job to raise your kids, but there is a point with some that you have to let them be accountable for their own actions. Problem was, the penalty was so light it told him that Crime Does Pay. It also sent that same message to his buddies (partners in crime).

Lock the small guy up now and make it hurt. Enough to make him think twice about tomorrow. Take down the "crime ring" one at a time, don't wait for the big fish. Because in the meantime, it's me who has to deal with all the BS (break in's, damages, violence, etc.)


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Re: Theives At it again [Re: jeepthing] #5258302 08/31/10 08:36 PM
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The point is that it is ridiculous that people can go around stealing stuff and only get a slap on the wrist. If they only had to get caught once in order to go away for a long time, then there would be a large drop in the number of repeat offenders. Get caught stealing things they should be locked up for at least 5 years. Won't stop all the problems, but ill bet it will sure slow them down.


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Originally Posted By: Gone Shank'n
The point is that it is ridiculous that people can go around stealing stuff and only get a slap on the wrist. If they only had to get caught once in order to go away for a long time, then there would be a large drop in the number of repeat offenders. Get caught stealing things they should be locked up for at least 5 years. Won't stop all the problems, but ill bet it will sure slow them down.


+1000, There's a reason why theft doesn't hardly happen at all in some countries oversea's. Penalties are waaaaaaayyyyyyy worse. See anybody with a missing hand walking around, it would make me think twice about committing any crime.

Increase the penalties for misdemeaner crimes!!!


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Re: Theives At it again [Re: jeepthing] #5258589 08/31/10 09:39 PM
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Sorry but you cannot successfully sue the police for letting someone go. States and agencies authorized by them (like the police) have sovereign immunity from that kind of lawsuit. Also the police cannot be sued or held liable for failing to protect you.

Basically the only time a suit of that type can be brought is if someone's civil rights are violated (no, you don't have a civil right of police protection) or if an official breaks a law, at which time they can be held personally liable.

Re: Theives At it again [Re: Canino] #5258674 08/31/10 09:58 PM
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The reason these folks keep getting out and getting off so easy is because the penal code places a value on all property and charges the criminal according to the value of the property stolen. He can break into 100 houses and still get off with a class B misdemeanor. And each charge will be run concurrent.He'll be out in 30 days time served. It's the way the law reads,my man.The police enforce the laws,not write them.They get tired of arresting the same people over and over too.They all know this and keep doing dirt cause they don't really pay a price for what they do.I agree with the guys who shoot first.I even told some local thieves that if they stole from me,I'd kill them on sight with no remorse.

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This just said it all to me: The Amherst, Tx Constable gave chase to a late model Lexus reported speeding on hwy 84. The driver of the Lexus ran off the road into a ditch trying to get away. The Officer pulled up with gun drawn and 2 young men got out. Help arrived so he ran the tags, coming back stolen from Fort Worth. He calls them to report the stolen Lexus. This is what they said: See if you can get them to leave the car and then let them go, we do`nt want to have to come get the guys but the insurance company will pay to recover the Lexus. WHAT!


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...then when they get the bullet that they deserve, we have to listen to a family member cry and tell us how great they were and how they never did anything wrong.


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YOU GOT IT!

Re: Theives At it again [Re: gary purdy] #5267728 09/03/10 02:11 PM
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As if that was the first car they had stolen??? What a joke!!

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well i live in the area where the tackle was stolen and i guess i'm lucky i was fishing that night.but mark my word i catch one of them sob's in my stuff there will be no questions asked.


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