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EPA and ethanol proposal
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07/09/10 05:27 PM
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JG ZX250
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Well, it looks like the EPA has received a proposal for E15 and E20 to be placed at the pumps. The ethanol industry ofcourse is pushing hard for this proposal, while outboard motor producers are fighting it, saying outboards can not burn this fuel.
Let's hope this proposal fails!
Taking 5 to the weigh-in occurs when opportunity meets successful execution of one's preparation.
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: JG ZX250]
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07/09/10 07:16 PM
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Zach Caudle
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Ethanol is killing outboards every day. . I dont understand their reasoning but they are costing ordinary Americans tons of money on their neccesities. I dont mean the boats when I say neccesity though. Ethanol is destroying fuel systems in our cars and trucks too.
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
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07/09/10 07:20 PM
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Lip Grip
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Ethanol is killing outboards every day. . I dont understand their reasoning but they are costing ordinary Americans tons of money on their neccesities. I dont mean the boats when I say neccesity though. Ethanol is destroying fuel systems in our cars and trucks too. ...lawn mowers, weed eaters, chainsaws, generators...
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
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07/09/10 08:01 PM
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Iclass2472
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just another form of them forcing stuff down our throat. We have no say now but in November we can start throwing them out. If will take awhile but we will get our message across one day.
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: Iclass2472]
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07/09/10 08:03 PM
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TIM CLINE
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IS there anything we can add like lead to give are motors more lubrication?
Last edited by TIM CLINE; 07/10/10 12:08 AM.
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: Iclass2472]
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07/09/10 08:37 PM
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elkhartdom
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just another form of them forcing stuff down our throat. We have no say now but in November we can start throwing them out. If will take awhile but we will get our message across one day. amen, lets just do it shall we, bout time we took our country back
at the sound of my name, fish tremble HI HO SILVER AWAY!!!ranger Z521,250 sho,black and silver TD: BMET 6263 http://theboatcentertx.combmoet@facebook "I humble myself before God, there the list ends" Sam Houston
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: elkhartdom]
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07/09/10 09:18 PM
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09Skeeter21i
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FYI, just to let everyone in on this ethanol fuel. Tree hugers think it is clean but it takes twice as much natural gas burned it make ethanol! So why would you want to burn 2 gallons, per say, of natural gas to get 1 gallon of ethanol? Tree hugers are so smart!!!!
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: 09Skeeter21i]
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07/09/10 09:22 PM
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Cameron
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Corn ethanol subsidies totaled $7.0 billion in 2006 for 4.9 billion gallons of ethanol.
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: Cameron]
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07/09/10 09:26 PM
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09Skeeter21i
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Corn ethanol subsidies totaled $7.0 billion in 2006 for 4.9 billion gallons of ethanol. This total does not include the energy spent making it!!
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: 09Skeeter21i]
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07/09/10 09:30 PM
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09Skeeter21i
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Plain and simple, we as "free" americans can not and will not ever be able to function without oil or gas!! What do you think would happen if every oil and gas well was shut in for a day? a week? a month?
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: TIM CLINE]
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07/09/10 09:50 PM
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Tom Groves
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IS there anything we can like lead to give are motors more lubrication? 
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
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07/09/10 10:33 PM
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TwoRangers
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One BIG reason that ethanol is still in the works is that the first election primaries are in Iowa and as long as that is our schedule - we will burn food for fuel no matter what the cost.
NEXT - I am still able to by gas without ethanol at some stations near the lakes I fish ---- BUT I heard that new rules taking effect soon will prohibit that....does anybody know about that being the case or not??
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
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07/09/10 11:14 PM
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papamark
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Looks like I am buying stock in sta-bil if this happens
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: TwoRangers]
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07/10/10 12:29 AM
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JG ZX250
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One BIG reason that ethanol is still in the works is that the first election primaries are in Iowa and as long as that is our schedule - we will burn food for fuel no matter what the cost.
NEXT - I am still able to by gas without ethanol at some stations near the lakes I fish ---- BUT I heard that new rules taking effect soon will prohibit that....does anybody know about that being the case or not??
Whether it says it on the pump or not, there is a 98% chance you are getting fuel with ethanol. Just FYI
Taking 5 to the weigh-in occurs when opportunity meets successful execution of one's preparation.
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Re: EPA and ethanol proposal
[Re: JG ZX250]
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07/10/10 12:56 AM
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bassdreamer
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Until we get back to 'Capitalism' being a good word instead of a dirty word, this country is doomed.
The free markets are always self correcting. When you subsidize spending 1.2 gallons of fuel to make 1 gallon of ethanol we have a problem.
To fight big business, you stop buying there stuff. To stop big government you must have a revolution. I would rather fight big business.
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