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Native Rough Fish (A-List) #4930400 06/02/10 06:55 AM
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Can someone post an all inclusive list of "Native Rough Fish" species?



Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: Don Morey] #4930545 06/02/10 11:52 AM
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I'll start. Defining "Native" (or "rough fish" for that matter) can open a can of worms though. What makes a species native? Does it need to have been here since the dawn of time? If it has been here for 500 years and developed a naturalized population does that count as native? If it's native range was originally thought to extend west to Louisiana but there have been recent observations in East Texas rivers, is it native to Texas. Food for thought I guess.

Alligator gar
Longnose gar
Shortnose gar
Spotted gar
Bigmouth buffalo
Black buffalo
Smallmouth buffalo
Bowfin
Freshwater drum


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What about Paddle Fish, Chestnut Lamprey, Brook Lamprey, Shovelnose Sturgeon, and, maybe, the American Eel?

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Drum, spotted sucker, red horse sucker...


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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: LoneStarCarper] #4931709 06/02/10 05:11 PM
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CARP! thumb


CAG - Same chit different coating


Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: Scorpion] #4931960 06/02/10 06:23 PM
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Ok, This is what the North American Native Fishes Association classify as NATIVE Texas species. I'm not about to try defining what is a 'rough fish'.


LAMPREYS
Chestnut Lamprey
Southern Brook Lamprey

STURGEONS
Shovelnose Sturgeon

PADDLEFISH
Paddlefish

GARS
Alligator Gar
Spotted Gar
Longnose Gar
Shortnose Gar

BOWFINS
Bowfin

FRESHWATER EELS
American Eel

HERRINGS & SHADS
Skipjack Herring
Gizzard Shad
Threadfin Shad

MOONEYES
Goldeye
Mooneye

PIKES
Grass Pickeral
Chain Pickeral

CHARACINS
Mexican Tetra

MINNOWS
Central Stoneroller
Edwards Plateau Shiner
Red Shiner
Proserpine Shiner
Blacktail Shiner
Steelcolor Shiner
Devils River Minnow
Roundnose Minnow
Speckled Chub
Rio Grande Chub Gila
Cypress Minnow
Mississippi Silvery Minnow
Plains Minnow
Pallid Shiner
Striped Shiner
Ribbon Shiner
Redfin Shiner
Golden Shiner
Texas Shiner
Emerald Shiner
Blackspot Shiner
Red River Shiner
Bigeye Shiner
Tamaulipas Shiner
Smalleye Shiner
Ghost Shiner
Ironcolor Shiner
Chihuahua Shiner
Rio Grande Shiner
Sand Shiner
Taillight Shiner
Phantom Shiner
Sharpnose Shiner
Chub Shiner
Rosyface Shiner
Sabine Shiner
Silverband Shiner
Weed Shiner
Mimic Shiner
Pugnose Minnow
Suckermouth Minnow
Bluntnose Minnow
Flatnose Minnow
Bullhead Minnow
Flathead Chub
Bluehead Shiner
Longnose Dace
Creek Chub

SUCKERS
River Carpsucker Carpiodes carpio
Blue Sucker
Creek Chubsucker
Lake Chubsucker
Smallmouth Buffalo
Bigmouth Buffalo
Black Buffalo
Spotted Sucker
West Mexican Redhorse
Gray Redhorse
Golden Redhorse
Blacktail Redhorse

BULLHEAD CATFISHES
Black Bullhead
Yellow Bullhead
Blue Catfish
Headwater Catfish
Channel Catfish
Tadpole Madtom
Freckled Madtom
Flathead Catfish
Widemouth Blindcat
Toothless Blindcat

PIRATE PERCH
Pirate Perch

TOPMINNOWS & KILLIFISHES
Western Starhead Topminnow
Golden Topminnow
Blackstripe Topminnow
Blackspotted Topminnow
Plains Killifish
Rainwater Killifish

PUPFISHES
Conchos Pupfish
Pecos Pupfish
Red River Pupfish
Sheepshead Minnow

LIVEBEARERS
Mosquitofish
Amistad Gambusia
Largespring Gambusia
Blotched Gambusia
Least Killifish
Amazon Molly
Sailfin Molly

SILVERSIDES
Brook Silversides
Inland Silversides
Rough Silversides

TEMPERATE BASSES
White Bass
Yellow Bass
Striped Bass

SUNFISHES
Flier
Banded Pygmy Sunfish
Green Sunfish
Warmouth Lepomis
Orangespotted Sunfish
Bluegill
Dollar Sunfish
Longear Sunfish
Redear Sunfish
Spotted Sunfish
Bantam Sunfish
Spotted Bass
Largemouth Bass
Guadalupe Bass
White Crappie
Black Crappie

DARTERS & PERCHES
Mud Darter
Bluntnose Darter
Western Sand Darter
Swamp Darter
Slough Darter
Rio Grande Darter
Harlequin Darter
Greenthroat Darter
Goldstripe Darter
Cypress Darter
Orangebelly Darter
Orangethroat Darter
Scaly Sand Darter
Redfin Darter
Logperch
Texas Logperch
Bigscale Logperch
Blackside Darter
Dusky Darter
River Darter

DRUMS
Freshwater Drum


Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: Scorpion] #4932514 06/02/10 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Scorpion
CARP! thumb

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I bet this sections catches a lot of sh!t.... Not that I care or anything. Just sayin Lol



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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: XXmikeXX] #4932978 06/02/10 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: XXmikeXX
Ok, This is what the North American Native Fishes Association classify as NATIVE Texas species. I'm not about to try defining what is a 'rough fish'.

TEMPERATE BASSES
White Bass
Yellow Bass
Striped Bass


I could be wrong. Heck, I'm wrong about many things. But I contend Striped Bass are native to the Hudson, Chesapeake, other lesser rivers of the US North East coast, and the Atlantic coast from lower Canada down to the Mid Atlantic states. I don't believe there were Stripers here until they were stocked. Therefore, not native.

Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: lou_a] #4933190 06/02/10 11:21 PM
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you are right, striped bass are not native here but the other two are


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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: Sunfish Fly] #4933508 06/03/10 12:47 AM
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I am a native Texan


PB Common Carp....... 38 lbs
PB Mirror Carp........12 lbs 8 oz
PB SM Buffalo........ 53 lbs
PB Grasser........... 48 lbs 4 oz
PB Blue cat.......... 17 lbs (caught on maize)

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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: Don Morey] #4934389 06/03/10 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: Lepomis4Life
Originally Posted By: Scorpion
CARP! thumb

dunce



Zach

Do me a favor and ban me before I give this arsehole both barrels will you.

Used to be a great forum this to pop in and read every day or so. Leo with his recent [censored] has dragged it right down flush

Everything I have heard about you from guys who have met you seems to be true Leo.

See you on the bank in Texas guys



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CAG - Same chit different coating


Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: Scorpion] #4934910 06/03/10 01:56 PM
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Hey Scorpion, why not try that in a PM. It's comments like that that 'drag this place down'



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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: DHFisher] #4934915 06/03/10 01:57 PM
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By the way, I'm native to Texas too.



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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List) [Re: XXmikeXX] #4935588 06/03/10 04:38 PM
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That's a pretty good list. thumb

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