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Native Rough Fish (A-List)
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06/02/10 06:55 AM
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Don Morey
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Can someone post an all inclusive list of "Native Rough Fish" species?
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: Don Morey]
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06/02/10 11:52 AM
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hiodon
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I'll start. Defining "Native" (or "rough fish" for that matter) can open a can of worms though. What makes a species native? Does it need to have been here since the dawn of time? If it has been here for 500 years and developed a naturalized population does that count as native? If it's native range was originally thought to extend west to Louisiana but there have been recent observations in East Texas rivers, is it native to Texas. Food for thought I guess.
Alligator gar Longnose gar Shortnose gar Spotted gar Bigmouth buffalo Black buffalo Smallmouth buffalo Bowfin Freshwater drum
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: hiodon]
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06/02/10 12:34 PM
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chestnut
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What about Paddle Fish, Chestnut Lamprey, Brook Lamprey, Shovelnose Sturgeon, and, maybe, the American Eel?
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
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06/02/10 01:27 PM
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LoneStarCarper
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Drum, spotted sucker, red horse sucker...
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: LoneStarCarper]
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06/02/10 05:11 PM
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Scorpion
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CARP!
CAG - Same chit different coating
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: Scorpion]
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06/02/10 06:23 PM
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XXmikeXX
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Ok, This is what the North American Native Fishes Association classify as NATIVE Texas species. I'm not about to try defining what is a 'rough fish'.
LAMPREYS Chestnut Lamprey Southern Brook Lamprey
STURGEONS Shovelnose Sturgeon
PADDLEFISH Paddlefish
GARS Alligator Gar Spotted Gar Longnose Gar Shortnose Gar
BOWFINS Bowfin
FRESHWATER EELS American Eel
HERRINGS & SHADS Skipjack Herring Gizzard Shad Threadfin Shad
MOONEYES Goldeye Mooneye
PIKES Grass Pickeral Chain Pickeral
CHARACINS Mexican Tetra
MINNOWS Central Stoneroller Edwards Plateau Shiner Red Shiner Proserpine Shiner Blacktail Shiner Steelcolor Shiner Devils River Minnow Roundnose Minnow Speckled Chub Rio Grande Chub Gila Cypress Minnow Mississippi Silvery Minnow Plains Minnow Pallid Shiner Striped Shiner Ribbon Shiner Redfin Shiner Golden Shiner Texas Shiner Emerald Shiner Blackspot Shiner Red River Shiner Bigeye Shiner Tamaulipas Shiner Smalleye Shiner Ghost Shiner Ironcolor Shiner Chihuahua Shiner Rio Grande Shiner Sand Shiner Taillight Shiner Phantom Shiner Sharpnose Shiner Chub Shiner Rosyface Shiner Sabine Shiner Silverband Shiner Weed Shiner Mimic Shiner Pugnose Minnow Suckermouth Minnow Bluntnose Minnow Flatnose Minnow Bullhead Minnow Flathead Chub Bluehead Shiner Longnose Dace Creek Chub
SUCKERS River Carpsucker Carpiodes carpio Blue Sucker Creek Chubsucker Lake Chubsucker Smallmouth Buffalo Bigmouth Buffalo Black Buffalo Spotted Sucker West Mexican Redhorse Gray Redhorse Golden Redhorse Blacktail Redhorse
BULLHEAD CATFISHES Black Bullhead Yellow Bullhead Blue Catfish Headwater Catfish Channel Catfish Tadpole Madtom Freckled Madtom Flathead Catfish Widemouth Blindcat Toothless Blindcat
PIRATE PERCH Pirate Perch
TOPMINNOWS & KILLIFISHES Western Starhead Topminnow Golden Topminnow Blackstripe Topminnow Blackspotted Topminnow Plains Killifish Rainwater Killifish
PUPFISHES Conchos Pupfish Pecos Pupfish Red River Pupfish Sheepshead Minnow
LIVEBEARERS Mosquitofish Amistad Gambusia Largespring Gambusia Blotched Gambusia Least Killifish Amazon Molly Sailfin Molly
SILVERSIDES Brook Silversides Inland Silversides Rough Silversides
TEMPERATE BASSES White Bass Yellow Bass Striped Bass
SUNFISHES Flier Banded Pygmy Sunfish Green Sunfish Warmouth Lepomis Orangespotted Sunfish Bluegill Dollar Sunfish Longear Sunfish Redear Sunfish Spotted Sunfish Bantam Sunfish Spotted Bass Largemouth Bass Guadalupe Bass White Crappie Black Crappie
DARTERS & PERCHES Mud Darter Bluntnose Darter Western Sand Darter Swamp Darter Slough Darter Rio Grande Darter Harlequin Darter Greenthroat Darter Goldstripe Darter Cypress Darter Orangebelly Darter Orangethroat Darter Scaly Sand Darter Redfin Darter Logperch Texas Logperch Bigscale Logperch Blackside Darter Dusky Darter River Darter
DRUMS Freshwater Drum
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: Scorpion]
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06/02/10 08:32 PM
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Don Morey
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CARP! 
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: Don Morey]
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06/02/10 08:36 PM
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DHFisher
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I bet this sections catches a lot of sh!t.... Not that I care or anything. Just sayin Lol
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: XXmikeXX]
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06/02/10 10:18 PM
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lou_a
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Ok, This is what the North American Native Fishes Association classify as NATIVE Texas species. I'm not about to try defining what is a 'rough fish'.
TEMPERATE BASSES White Bass Yellow Bass Striped Bass I could be wrong. Heck, I'm wrong about many things. But I contend Striped Bass are native to the Hudson, Chesapeake, other lesser rivers of the US North East coast, and the Atlantic coast from lower Canada down to the Mid Atlantic states. I don't believe there were Stripers here until they were stocked. Therefore, not native.
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: lou_a]
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06/02/10 11:21 PM
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Sunfish Fly
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you are right, striped bass are not native here but the other two are
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
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06/03/10 12:47 AM
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Big Ted
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: Don Morey]
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06/03/10 04:31 AM
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Scorpion
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CARP! Zach Do me a favor and ban me before I give this arsehole both barrels will you. Used to be a great forum this to pop in and read every day or so. Leo with his recent [censored] has dragged it right down Everything I have heard about you from guys who have met you seems to be true Leo. See you on the bank in Texas guys
Last edited by Scorpion; 06/03/10 04:32 AM.
CAG - Same chit different coating
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: Scorpion]
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06/03/10 01:56 PM
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DHFisher
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Hey Scorpion, why not try that in a PM. It's comments like that that 'drag this place down'
 SAC AMF Founding Member of the Lone Star Carp Brigade - Dedicated to the promotion, education and camaraderie of carp anglers in the great state of Texas
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
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06/03/10 01:57 PM
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DHFisher
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By the way, I'm native to Texas too.
 SAC AMF Founding Member of the Lone Star Carp Brigade - Dedicated to the promotion, education and camaraderie of carp anglers in the great state of Texas
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Re: Native Rough Fish (A-List)
[Re: XXmikeXX]
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06/03/10 04:38 PM
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Don Morey
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That's a pretty good list. 
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