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Too much line at my feet
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06/02/10 04:03 PM
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2721West
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Hi everyone. Quick question.
I have had this problem a few times in the past. Then I had the wonderful lesson with Rex and I am having this problem often. Since I have learned to cast a pretty good distance I get a lot of line out (20-30 yards).
My problem is that when I have landed a fish like a bass I have 10 yards or more of line at my feet and the bass don't run like trout they just sit there.
So to keep tension and not lose the fish I have just been pulling in the line with my hand and not the reel. Is this the correct way to do this? Or should I hold onto the line and reel up the line at my feet until my reel can pull in the fish? I lost a really big fighter yesterday because of this problem.
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: 2721West]
#4931465
06/02/10 04:06 PM
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Bug_Slinger
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On a bass, I never take them to the reel. Just use your other hand to strip line in to land the fish. Never let tension off or you are going to lose the fish.
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: Bug_Slinger]
#4931495
06/02/10 04:14 PM
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rrhyne56
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Cole said it, no need to put them on the reel unless they are taking off on you. The second point here is managing the line at your feet. And that is the problem, having it at your feet.
I tend to leave it there but if its particularly weedy and snaggy then I have to gather it in big, loose loops and carry it in my off hand. There is no solution other that trial and error, practice, practice to get it down right.
"have fun with this stuff" in memory of Big Dale RRhyne56, Flyfishing warden
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: rrhyne56]
#4931535
06/02/10 04:27 PM
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Jerry Hamon
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Hand strip and keep as much tension as is necessary. A strip basket comes in handy when in weedy, yucky, mucky situations.
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: Jerry Hamon]
#4931618
06/02/10 04:49 PM
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2721West
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Thanks guys. I guess I was doing it right.
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: 2721West]
#4932290
06/02/10 07:40 PM
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Bass Bug
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you;re doing it right but let me tell ya this...its a pain in the azz to get 'em on the reel but when ya do, its a lot of fun...really try it sometime (especially if there is some current involved)
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: Bass Bug]
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06/02/10 08:46 PM
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derik d
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you;re doing it right but let me tell ya this...its a pain in the azz to get 'em on the reel but when ya do, its a lot of fun...really try it sometime (especially if there is some current involved) +2 I have started making it a point to put any fish that even has some fight in it at all onto the reel. Just a hadies of alot more fun and you dont have a mess of line to sort through when your done with the release.
It's more than the catfish would do.
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: derik d]
#4932670
06/02/10 09:04 PM
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Brimbum
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Although it is not necessary to fight the fish on the reel, I find that when I do that, I walk on the line less and the line lasts longer. When I am grinnin from ear to ear, I don't care how long the line lasts. Don't frget to:
Have fun with this stuff.
Big Dale
Have fun with this stuff.
Brimbum
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: Brimbum]
#4932784
06/02/10 09:22 PM
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Bug_Slinger
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I agree if you have the space for it, but most of the time, I am yanking bass out of weed edges / trees and taking the time to put them on the reel is just a lost fish. Now, striped bass is a different story and a good one at that.
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: 2721West]
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06/02/10 10:33 PM
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BHR
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X2 on everything that has been said so far. Not necessary to get the fish to the reel unless the fish makes you do it, and also fun to get them to the reel when you can, your choice every time you hook up.
The strip basket can be handy, but you can coil up your stripped line in your hand just as easy, and you can always untangle it...
I like to put fish on the reel just to work the drag once in a while, but mostly strip them in by hand.
BHR
Plus, IMO, If you aint drinking, you aint mowing.
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: BHR]
#4936139
06/03/10 06:56 PM
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HammerPants
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There are different styles of fly angling, to be sure. Its best to be practiced in a variety of those disciplines if you wish to be a well rounded angler.
What you described is a perfect scenario for what's known as the Norse Retrieve. When the fish hits, give a two second count, set the hook, then turn and run away from the bank as fast as you can, keeping tension on the line as you run backward. As you get to where the line is pulling taught, and there are no more coils on the ground, you can keep running and the line will drag the fish to the bank. Once the fish is safely drug onto the bank (drag him 50-60 feet onto the bank to prevent an early release), drop your rod to the ground, pick up your Fish Brick (you do cary a FB, right??), run as fast as you can back to the fish, and then bash it on its head with the brick. You may have to bash twice. Then remove the hook.
The biggest problem with the Norse Retrieve is accidentally stepping on your line during the return to the fish. Thats a good way to tear up some quality line.
Give that a shot next time and get some good pics of those Norse Retrieved fish to share with us!!
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: HammerPants]
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06/03/10 07:01 PM
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2721West
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drop your rod to the ground, pick up your Fish Brick (you do cary a FB, right??), Is that what the brick in my starter kit was for?
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: 2721West]
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06/03/10 07:04 PM
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rrhyne56
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drop your rod to the ground, pick up your Fish Brick (you do cary a FB, right??), Is that what the brick in my starter kit was for? yOU ARE FITTING RIGHT IN SIR!
"have fun with this stuff" in memory of Big Dale RRhyne56, Flyfishing warden
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: HammerPants]
#4936175
06/03/10 07:06 PM
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rrhyne56
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There are different styles of fly angling, to be sure. Its best to be practiced in a variety of those disciplines if you wish to be a well rounded angler.
What you described is a perfect scenario for what's known as the Norse Retrieve. When the fish hits, give a two second count, set the hook, then turn and run away from the bank as fast as you can, keeping tension on the line as you run backward. As you get to where the line is pulling taught, and there are no more coils on the ground, you can keep running and the line will drag the fish to the bank. Once the fish is safely drug onto the bank (drag him 50-60 feet onto the bank to prevent an early release), drop your rod to the ground, pick up your Fish Brick (you do cary a FB, right??), run as fast as you can back to the fish, and then bash it on its head with the brick. You may have to bash twice. Then remove the hook.
The biggest problem with the Norse Retrieve is accidentally stepping on your line during the return to the fish. Thats a good way to tear up some quality line.
Give that a shot next time and get some good pics of those Norse Retrieved fish to share with us!! Are you channeling Ed Zern?
"have fun with this stuff" in memory of Big Dale RRhyne56, Flyfishing warden
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Re: Too much line at my feet
[Re: rrhyne56]
#4936198
06/03/10 07:13 PM
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HammerPants
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Are you channeling Ed Zern? That's quite a compliment! I forgot about ol' Ed Zern.
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