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Do hybrids produce eggs???
#470106
03/25/06 10:04 PM
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fishstalker
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Do female hybrids produce eggs? They are sterile correct? Steve
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
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03/25/06 11:15 PM
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redfin
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Yes. They will go thru all the spawning motions but the spawn will not take.
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
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03/26/06 01:22 AM
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Willie01
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why did I find eggs in several hybrids I caught today at lewisville when I cleaned them? . Do they get eggs but dont hatch??
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
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03/27/06 03:35 AM
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Willie01
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Wow I guess they do according to these articles.
Hybrid striped bass, unlike some other hybrids, is fertile. It is oviparous (egg-laying) like the parental species and produces eggs and sperm in the spring when temperatures are 15 to 20 C. Some males mature at the age of 1 year (approximately 250 mm long and 500 grams), and all are mature at 2 years of age. A few females are mature at 2 years of age, but all are mature at 3 years. Females produce an average of 160,000 eggs per pound of body weight and spawn once a year. Males may spawn many times over the spawning season.
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
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03/27/06 04:49 AM
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I think Ranger R's reply is almost an exact quote from the TPWD website. Reread it and notice the "seldom". Somewhere I read that approxinately 1 out of 50,000 female hybrids are actually capable of a successfull spawn. The rate then drops down for their offspring to something like 1 out of 250,000 or something like that. Then it keeps dropping for each generation. The male factor doesn't matter as white bass or striped bass males can fertilize the eggs.
In other words, some of them can spawn successfully but they can not sustain a population. If a lake isn't stocked they will all be gone within 10-15 years.
Kevin
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
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03/27/06 01:52 PM
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Thank y'all for the clarification.
Steve
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
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03/27/06 02:59 PM
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interesting, I feel like im ready to take my job at the fishery already!
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
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03/27/06 11:18 PM
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The offspring of the hybrid are even harder to identify then the parents. I guess they are only 1/3rd or less striper which could help explain why so many whitebass look like hybrids with the broken lines above the lateral line and the odd shaped tongue patchs. I don't think pure whitebass have broken lines but there might not be many "pure" whitebass anymore in lakes that get regular hybrid stockings.
The hybrid stocking program has had some problems enforcing the rules based on being able to identify by looks alone. I know one of the wildlife fisheries guys that does the lake sampling and testing and even he has had problems identifying hybrids and whites from just looking. He suggested that about half the time what looks like a hybrid is really a mature whitebass but only tissue samples tell the whole truth.
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
#470115
03/29/06 01:55 AM
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The other things to consider with regard to spawning fish are environmental conditions....termperature, predators, running water, soil, etc. all affect a viable, fertilized egg's ability to hatch into a larvae and on to fingerlings. Striper being one piece of the cross don't reproduce in Texas lakes. They are a salt water speices that thrive in the sea and come back to their natural spawning grounds much like salmon do. Here is an article that provides a bit more detail as to the conditions required for striper to have a successful spawn.... http://www.ospreymarine.com/biology.html Texas hatchery info: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/fishboat/fish/management/hatcheries/fw_production.phtml#striper R
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Re: Do hybrids produce eggs???
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03/29/06 05:25 AM
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ksutton
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The statement saying stripers don't reproduce in Texas lakes is incorrect. Texoma is one of only 2 lakes in the country where stripers reproduce in the wild. They don't stock that lake. There is a salt deposit which the Red River flows through which provides the salt content needed for the spawn.
The other lake is in either Tennessee or Kentucky. I forget which but it is for the same reason, the river flows through a salt deposit.
Kevin
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