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 Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: chunk&wind]
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01/14/10 06:36 PM
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brokenjeep
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Pay $100,000 to fish.
It sounds more like a poker tournament
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: brokenjeep]
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01/14/10 06:41 PM
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Todd Castledine
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Pay $100,000 to fish.
It sounds more like a poker tournament Yea but 138 place pays 93,000 and 1st you retire and and really start fishing for fun. Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining about the tournaments I love BASS and FLW and all my local touranaments without them I don't even have a shot I applaude them everyday seems like we need some new innovation to come along that get the fans more involved. Funny how its the #1 hooby in America yet the hardest to sell.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: Razorback]
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01/14/10 06:45 PM
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TDR2
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That's true, at least when he got to the NFL level. Before that, though, he was given the chance to compete at the high school and college level. That's what allowed him to prove himself so he had the opportunity to make the big bucks.
My point is that if players in other sports faced what an up and coming bass fisherman faces in terms of being able to afford to participate...instead of seeing Earl Campbell run over Jack Tatum and Isaiah Robertson in those great old NFL Films of the Oilers playing the Raiders or Rams, we'd be watching Buffy Vanderbilt from Princeton butting heads with Thurston Hamilton Windthorst, III from Carnegie Mellon University. That was pretty funny.
P1
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: TDR2]
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01/14/10 07:22 PM
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Neal G
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Randy Blaukat forgot to mention a couple of things. One of them is that many established pros have helped craft and supported qualifying rules to restrict access to the top circuits to protect their positions from new guys. ESPN and FLW clearly want/wanted the same.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: Champion1]
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01/14/10 07:23 PM
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J.P. Greeson
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We need Brian Clark or Cory Waldrop to give us some of their feedback. I don't see that happening. Having gotten to know a number of these guys, I think they are very hesitant to say anything about FLW or BASS for fear of getting on the "outs" with either organization.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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01/14/10 09:20 PM
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Bleed Husker Red
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Seems to me that overall to be a pro fisherman or a guide, you really have to want it bad. It is not something for someone that just thinks it sounds like fun. If you are not 100% committed to that life style, then you have no chance of making it.
I think it will get tougher on the professional tournament fishing side in the next few years. Because if the PAA is the future, then that organization has to rise up and overtake BASS and FLW, eventually. Those two organizations will not allow that to happen overnight. All 3 can co-exist for a time, but to get to the level the PAA wants, more like Blauket will have to jump ship. I watch the pro tours from a distance as closely as anyone and don't believe they will ever go away. But change takes time and will not come easily. But who ever dreamed that a single fishing tournament winner would be paid $1,000,000. Or better yet, that a Fantasy Fishing winner would be paid $1,000,000.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: Bleed Husker Red]
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01/14/10 09:32 PM
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BoomBoom
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Seems to me that overall to be a pro fisherman or a guide, you really have to want it bad. It is not something for someone that just thinks it sounds like fun. If you are not 100% committed to that life style, then you have no chance of making it.
I think it will get tougher on the professional tournament fishing side in the next few years. Because if the PAA is the future, then that organization has to rise up and overtake BASS and FLW, eventually. Those two organizations will not allow that to happen overnight. All 3 can co-exist for a time, but to get to the level the PAA wants, more like Blauket will have to jump ship. I watch the pro tours from a distance as closely as anyone and don't believe they will ever go away. But change takes time and will not come easily. But who ever dreamed that a single fishing tournament winner would be paid $1,000,000. Or better yet, that a Fantasy Fishing winner would be paid $1,000,000. Or who would have dreamed Bo Pelini's 'Skers would win 10 games this year! 
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: BoomBoom]
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01/14/10 10:01 PM
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Bleed Husker Red
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Seems to me that overall to be a pro fisherman or a guide, you really have to want it bad. It is not something for someone that just thinks it sounds like fun. If you are not 100% committed to that life style, then you have no chance of making it.
I think it will get tougher on the professional tournament fishing side in the next few years. Because if the PAA is the future, then that organization has to rise up and overtake BASS and FLW, eventually. Those two organizations will not allow that to happen overnight. All 3 can co-exist for a time, but to get to the level the PAA wants, more like Blauket will have to jump ship. I watch the pro tours from a distance as closely as anyone and don't believe they will ever go away. But change takes time and will not come easily. But who ever dreamed that a single fishing tournament winner would be paid $1,000,000. Or better yet, that a Fantasy Fishing winner would be paid $1,000,000. Or who would have dreamed Bo Pelini's 'Skers would win 10 games this year! Especially after loosing to ISU to fall to 4-3. It will be a dissappointment if they don't win 10 next year though. To get back to the discussion, being a pro fisherman or a guide is not something I would ever be able to do. I love to fish, love tournaments, but couldn't stand traveling that much or not having a steady paycheck. Don't even want to go into the guide deal. Maybe if they have a senior tour in 25 years or so I could qualify for that (LOL).
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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01/14/10 10:31 PM
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Brandon Dickenson
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We need Brian Clark or Cory Waldrop to give us some of their feedback. I don't see that happening. Having gotten to know a number of these guys, I think they are very hesitant to say anything about FLW or BASS for fear of getting on the "outs" with either organization. I think Brian is speaking volumes by not speaking at all.....Considering the fact he is not fishing the elites this year even though he qualified, makes me think he isn't satisfied with the payout/entry fee raitio either.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: Wavemaker]
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01/14/10 11:05 PM
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ocswacknoffsteele
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Hey Brooks,can we set up a new tourny trail just for Texas
(4 regions ) N,S,E,W Then invite the big tourny directors to pay
Texas club members to enter the once a year Texas Bassbowl,we will have it at diffrent lakes each year Amistad ,Fork,Toledo Bend,Choke,Travis,Conroe,Ivey,Belton,etc..Have the towns pay for the tournys,for local economy to thrive,so the towns would bid on each year.I appoint you to get this started,give me a shout if you need direction,just get my# from the minnow bucket.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: brokenjeep]
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01/14/10 11:27 PM
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shotgunwilly
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From the article...
"Promotional ability and fishing performance often take a back seat to who you know."
Thank you.
Great read.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: shotgunwilly]
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01/15/10 12:43 AM
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randbrand
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From the article...
"Promotional ability and fishing performance often take a back seat to who you know."
Gee, thanks for joining the rest of us here in the real world.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: randbrand]
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01/15/10 04:28 AM
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shotgunwilly
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From the article...
"Promotional ability and fishing performance often take a back seat to who you know."
Gee, thanks for joining the rest of us here in the real world. Why post when you don't know what you're talking about? Or what I'm talking about?
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: shotgunwilly]
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01/15/10 01:58 PM
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randbrand
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From the article...
"Promotional ability and fishing performance often take a back seat to who you know."
Gee, thanks for joining the rest of us here in the real world. Why post when you don't know what you're talking about? Or what I'm talking about? Sorry, didn't mean that toward you specifically. Just meant why do we all think pro fishing should be any different than anything else. I'm just saying that no matter what you do in life, who you know often counts for more than how good you are at it. I have been on both sides of it. So, I do know a little bit about it.
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Re: Who wants to know the TRUTH about pro fishing?
[Re: Bass_Bustin_Texan]
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01/15/10 03:41 PM
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Joefishin
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Yes FLW reported $75 million in 2009. And that was supposed to be a down year? WOW! IMO, that is your biggest problem and everything else trickles down from there. They are clearing 75 million.... Meanwhile it cost the angler 5,000 dollars to enter the tournament to win some of his fellow competitors money. Until we start seeing payouts go up and entry fees go down, we won't get anywhere. It's the companies that are profiting the most from the tournaments. This happened a few years ago with both organizations. They raise entry fees to give bigger payouts. Basically FLW and BASS are no different than a local tournament trail where 90% of the prize money comes from your fellow anglers pockets. While they sit back and pocket all the sponsorship dollars from Toyota, Skeeter, Triton, Tide, Land O Lakes whatever.... It's backwards. The only way forward is an organization like the PAA that puts the sport back in the hands of the anglers. My .02
http://www.denalirods.com �Some men fish all their lives without knowing it is not really the fish they are after.� -Henry David Thoreau
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