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Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: irfishyir2] #4283716 12/23/09 11:51 PM
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Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: newtothis] #4283723 12/23/09 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: newtothis
I had a long response to the stupidity that is your last post RodFather, but its about time to stop feeding the trolls.

Have fun, and keep with that kool-aid line. one of these days it will come back in fashion.


Two words...head..[censored].




Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: TheRodFather] #4284159 12/24/09 02:17 AM
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all i know is i had a good job when BUSH was pres. now that obama is in charge,i got plenty of time to sit and read all this sillyness.


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Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: Legendonrichland-chambers] #4284498 12/24/09 04:20 AM
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fasty,
You are now reaping what the Bush administration sowed.

You can't just blame either president, though. The Executive and Legislative branches are both owned by corporate interests that have been pushing short term profits over long term viability since (gasp!) Ronald Reagan led the way.

The corporations don't have anybody's interests in mind except their own short-term profits, because that is how their executives are incentivised. Thats what got us into the mortgage derivatives, despoiling the environment, enslaving 'third world' workers, and outsourcing our jobs.

This didn't start with Obama.

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Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: fiSherwood] #4284663 12/24/09 05:46 AM
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I too have been to socialist countries and dealt with socialist health care.

We ARE headed toward socialism and Obama is a Socialist. He has as much said so with his programs and his "vision" of wealth redistribution. His "solution" to the mortgage crisis is a good example.

The socialist or government run health care systems all are vast inferior to ours. How many folks from Germany, England, etc come here for there major health care needs? How many Americans go elsewhere? The only reason most Americans get health care outside this country is for cheaper medicine(less rugulation, so it's cheaper) or to have something done that is either not allowed in this country or that is still in the approval stage.

I do agree, however, that Obama is not going to try to stop recreational fishing. He is too worried about bad mouthing and selling our great nation to the lesser nations.

Also, if ya'll truly cared about pollution and the earth, ya'll would be trying to get some regulation on China, the Koreas(mostly South), and Russia. They are doing far worse things than our "money hungry" U. S. companies to our environment.


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Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: newtothis] #4285710 12/24/09 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: newtothis
"If we don't want gov't health care....then we tell our elected leaders"

but we do want government health insurance. 77% of Americans support a choice of a public option.

"how are you going to compare insurance companies to a fire department."

thats not the comparison i am making. what i am saying is that i dont understand why you think its ok for local governments to collect taxes and use those taxes to pay the people who save lives in the case of fires and traffic accidents, but its not ok for the government to collect taxes and pay the people who save lives in the case of disease or injury.

the local government in this case is analogous to the insurance companies, except the local government is not trying to make a profit so all the fire departments get all the resources they need and since the risk is spread across the entire population, we all pay much less.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion#Ozone_depletion_and_global_warming

"You grew up in that system and it understandable that you can enjoy it."

no i grew up in this system, while often seeing that system. that means i know BOTH systems. do you know both systems? have you ever been to a public hospital, or paid a hospital bill in a country like Italy? well i can tell you that i know both systems and i prefer the other.

"of course we are not full, out blown communist country yet."

and we never will be. you dont know what that word means, and until you go read a bit on it.. and i don't mean just look at the Wikipedia page and twittle your fingers. go read. seriously. your absolute ignorance on this subject is an embarrassment to fishermen.

your "quote" from dean is just more proof of the ignorance. he said socialism not communism.

anyway.. this conversation is way off topic..

if you don't like catch share, blame your own party. if you dont like the deficit, blame your own party. unless you fancy yourself one of those new independents that's going to split the republican party down the middle.. if that's the case, where can i donate.



Funny, how you can call me ignorant. You can differentate between socialism and communism all you want. Fundamentally they are slightly different; however, when applied practally you end up with basically the same results.

You can call it wind....you can call it the reverse polar migration....hell, call it 'becasue of the space aliens". This [censored] comes from the same liberal scientists that are trying to scare the world into global warming. When the earth was developing and in the age of the dinosaurs...volcanos and vents put more carbon into the atmosphere than mankind could ever hope to do. Yet, we are still here. The earth has gone through ice ages...yet, we are still here.


You can keep trying to cram this 'global warming' down our throats but we are not going to buy it.

You tell me to blame the Republican Party for the deficit? Bush didn't do anything to help the party; however, he didn't follow the party mantra toward the end of his second term. Let me ask you this....what has his greatness Obama done to help the deficit. As I stated before, HE HAS SPENT MORE MONEY THAN ALL PREVIOUS 43 PRESIDENTS COMBINED. Spin anyway to want to...he has don't nothing to help IMPROVE the deficit. Hell, the Dem Congress is voting to increase the debt ceiling so we don't go into DEFAULT on some loans. I never though I would see the day The United States of America would go into default, and I pray I don't. Obama and the Dem reckless spending has got to stop. Obama's printing on money has to stop. We can not spend our way of this problem. Spending money to reduce debt can't work...any idiot knows that, yet the idiots in Washington can't seem to figure that out. If Obama wanted to stimlate the economy he should have taken that $787 billion and sent, if I remember correctly, a check for $24,000 to every tax payer in America. That would have stimulated the economy. All we have done is "save a few jobs" which is questionable at best and repair a few roads.


Also, show me where 77% of Americans what ObamaCare!! I haven't seen that anywhere.

Also, the gov't collects taxes to pay for fire protection becauses it a civil job. The medical industry is a business..not a charity; thus the gov't shouldn't be sticking it's nose into. Regulations to keep insurances companies honest..sure, but offering plans to compete with the private section is a no go. I know that sounds harsh but that's the way it is...life's not fair.

It looks like your going to get your wish...health care is going to pass..Congratulations. I'm just going to be one of those guys that is saying "I told you so", once the gov't screws up health care. Do you know of any gov't office that is run smoothly????? My guess is no. Before you state what you mentioned before, that Clinton fixed welfare. I don't see where is fixed it. Explain to me why I saw a lady pay for a big'o load of grocerys with food stamps then proceed to take her two kids and groceries and load them in to her brand new Mercedes. FIXED MY [censored]!!

Look, let's agree to disagree. Your not going to change my mind...I'm not going to change yours. You think I'm ignorant..I think your ignorant. Your a bleeding heart liberal...I'm a true conservative.

Have a good time fishing and Merry Chirstmas (better enjoy saying that too...before long it will become offensive to some liberal).

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Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: bassinbiker] #4285714 12/24/09 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: bassinbiker
I too have been to socialist countries and dealt with socialist health care.

We ARE headed toward socialism and Obama is a Socialist. He has as much said so with his programs and his "vision" of wealth redistribution. His "solution" to the mortgage crisis is a good example.

The socialist or government run health care systems all are vast inferior to ours. How many folks from Germany, England, etc come here for there major health care needs? How many Americans go elsewhere? The only reason most Americans get health care outside this country is for cheaper medicine(less rugulation, so it's cheaper) or to have something done that is either not allowed in this country or that is still in the approval stage.

I do agree, however, that Obama is not going to try to stop recreational fishing. He is too worried about bad mouthing and selling our great nation to the lesser nations.

Also, if ya'll truly cared about pollution and the earth, ya'll would be trying to get some regulation on China, the Koreas(mostly South), and Russia. They are doing far worse things than our "money hungry" U. S. companies to our environment.


Kudos man!! Spoken truthfully. Ask the good folks from Canada how they like their gov't health program.

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Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: HOU Razorback] #4290948 12/26/09 08:19 PM
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"Ask the good folks from Canada how they like their gov't health program. "

they love it, and laugh at us Americans. no lie

Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: newtothis] #4290976 12/26/09 08:35 PM
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"You can differentate between socialism and communism all you want. Fundamentally they are slightly different; however, when applied practally you end up with basically the same results."

read up on social democracy. you have no idea what you are talking about. the ignorance is getting a little annoying, so really do read up on this stuff before you comment again.

"The earth has gone through ice ages...yet, we are still here." the worry is that we are bringing about serious climate change through our actions, not that the earth will be destroyed or unable to sustain life. but if things go wrong, we could lose billions.

"You can keep trying to cram this 'global warming' down our throats but we are not going to buy it. "

i'm not cramming anything down your throat. the science is settled, the debate is over. you lost. get over it.

"Also, show me where 77% of Americans what ObamaCare!"

you are not stupid, google it. oh and its not obama care they want, its a public option. look it up. misinformation seems to be your downfall here.

"The medical industry is a business..not a charity" we are talking about insurance, not doctors or hospitals. hospitals, doctors, nurses, pharmaceutical companies.... all these operate as profit generating private businesses under a public option.

again. your ignorance is getting the better of you.

"xplain to me why I saw a lady pay for a big'o load of grocerys with food stamps then proceed to take her two kids and groceries and load them in to her brand new Mercedes."

easy.. you are lying.

".I'm a true conservative. "

yeah right

Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: newtothis] #4291449 12/27/09 12:44 AM
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I know this may be a bit off topic but relating to the environmental issues, I read a book while in college for an environmental engineering class called Earth in the Balance by Al Gore and it was a very interesting read. It was very shocking some of the things mentioned in that book and it mentioned global warming and ozone depletion and pollution and lots of interesting issues.

As for nuclear energy I don't think Americans would go for that. They are too scared about Chernobyl and things of this nature. So we look into solar power and wind power.

A girlfriend of mine's dad sells nuclear power plants. His company basically builds and sells nuclear powerplants mostly in Asia and European countries but he deals with many different countries to sell them nuclear power. And America is one of these countries that is very scared of nuclear power even though it is very safe. People here in America would be scared to live near the vicinity of a nuclear power plant.

Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: FoldCatOne] #4292985 12/27/09 04:25 PM
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new to this must also mean to the political scene. the most damage done during bush was the last two years when the house and the senate were democratically controlled. this administration is doin everthing they can to increase there control over the people. thank god our electoral college in Texas can not be blamed for this presidency.eek2 ps Hutchinson voted for obamacare. hung ha the spellchecker for obamacare comes up as macaroni rolfmao

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Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: AJ Perez] #4296087 12/28/09 02:44 PM
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"the most damage done during bush was the last two years"

Iraq war and USA Patriot Act were not in the last two years of his presidency, neither was the Catch Share program, and the bailout originated in the white house, not the congress.

try again.



Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: newtothis] #4297870 12/28/09 11:27 PM
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got one word for you now...zazzle...that explain all of your logic...a bunch of liberal zazzle...shoot line not people...right? hahahahahahahahahahah! what a tool.


Re: Obama doing away with Sport Fishing? [Re: MP/HOG] #4299108 12/29/09 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: MP/HOG
Uh, this stuff doesn't happen overnight, it has been in motion for years even before Bush JR..Obama is the first President in awhile to actually voice that we have a problem and we need to fix it, and try to fix it....And yet again things do not happen or change overnight.....Why don't you give the guy a chance, he did win by the way...And like it or not he is our President so people can start standing behind him and support change or not...I am one that supports change....Just like everyone ran and bought all the ammo and guns cause Obama was going to take them away...LMAO....I love it when people say I heard this from a guy or my cousin said....LOL
Get a life....
yea---it takes big b_alls to stand up for change. and to TRY and fix a lot of broken sh_it in America.Bush was soo lame duck it's a shame issue's got put on the back burner---that much longer. i love it how Obama called GM out when they refused to get off their fat azz's and do something about their situation. Viola---Obama took care of it. Bush would not have touched that one with a ten foot castaway. i am a leberal for good reason. to move forward and get stuff done. we all benefit. the world is getting smaller and we're all vying for less resources. we have to make sure we all HAVE A PIECE OF THE PIE. I hate not having a public option in Healthcare reform, but we are going to get this done.(past the senate---yippee) i need health insurance RIGHT NOW so it won't come soon enough. kick azz Obama, this country needs a wakeup call---now, not later. peace and happy new years to all my fellow Americans.


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