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Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 01:47 AM
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Chuck Elliott
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Hey guys, quick question:
What brand/LB test line do you use for fishing really gnarley stuff?
I have had major problems the past couple of years breaking fish off on the hookset. I know my hookset is too violent, but there is nothing I can do about it, it's an instinctive reaction.
I have had the best luck with P-Line CXX 25lb test, but even then I break off about every third hookset. I have tried everything from PowerPro braid (65lb test) to Big Game (50 lb test). The braid breaks everytime I set the hook, the big game is maybe 50%.
I've changed to a lighter action rod and backed my drag down to 4 pounds thinking that would save the line, it helped some, but not enough.
The main problem is when I flip into, over, or behind rocks or wood my line breaks on the hookset.
I got some 20lb Invisx last night, thinking it might be a little more abrasion resistant, and I'm gonna try that. Would have got a heavier line, but thats the biggest I could find.
What do yall suggest? Who makes a good abrasion resistant, shock resistant line?
A little info on my hookset: A good hookset involves a 7 pounder coming into the boat with me in one fluid motion. It's pretty bad, but thats how I learned to set the hook 20 years ago, and its just automatic now.
Thanks Chuck
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 01:48 AM
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Re: Flipping line problems
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Chuck Elliott
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Oh, I forgot to mention, since I'm sure this will come up.
I use a palomar knot. It seems the knot holds up ok, its just the line thats the problem.
Any knot suggestions for the braid or the flouro?
Thanks again!
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Re: Flipping line problems
[Re: senko9S]
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09/25/09 01:51 AM
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Chuck Elliott
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I am relaxed. Its just an automatic thing. I feel that thump, and them I hit em, I'm not even aware that I've had a hit until the fish is in the boat with me...
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 01:53 AM
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senko9S
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switch to mono or a more forgiving rod then.
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 01:54 AM
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jeremy fishalot
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65 power pro i pulled a good 8lb on forks pads.that fish straghtend the hook landed her but my line didnt break!
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 01:55 AM
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Dale Griffin
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Ya need to cool down on the hookset and with braid and a bigger fish make sure when you set the hook you dont have slack or that sudden pop could break your line.
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 02:03 AM
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...huh... make sure your knots are good and wet but then still that shouldn't make THAT much difference... Power pro is as good a braid, or better than any other... deffinately relax, mabey change hands your flippn with, your weaker hand will be well... weaker... might help...
last resort... go to walmart buy the softest ugly stick you can find... it wont break (they are indistructible in my experience) and it will be MUCH softer lol
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 02:10 AM
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Chuck Elliott
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Ya need to cool down on the hookset and with braid and a bigger fish make sure when you set the hook you dont have slack or that sudden pop could break your line. I quit using braid after I lost several fish over 5. But you might be right on this. This may be why I break mono too. I'm not sure if I drop my rod tip to set the hook. I do know that there is an awful lot of shock being put on the line. I'll try to set on a tighter line. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 02:12 AM
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powerpro sucks.
65# spiderwire is what i use. fresh and saltwater.
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 02:14 AM
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Chuck Elliott
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...huh... make sure your knots are good and wet but then still that shouldn't make THAT much difference... Power pro is as good a braid, or better than any other... deffinately relax, mabey change hands your flippn with, your weaker hand will be well... weaker... might help...
last resort... go to walmart buy the softest ugly stick you can find... it wont break (they are indistructible in my experience) and it will be MUCH softer lol Thanks! But I think I'll stick with my Loomis! I did change from the 7'11" rod, which was a really stiff rod, to a 7'2" medium rod, which was still too stiff. Now I use a medium action spinnerbait rod, which has a very soft tip, but still has some power in the butt. Thanks for the suggestions, I really think its gonna be a combination of things. Keep 'em comming!
Last edited by Chuck Elliott; 09/25/09 02:18 AM.
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Re: Flipping line problems
[Re: senko9S]
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09/25/09 02:18 AM
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Chuck Elliott
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switch to mono or a more forgiving rod then. I've been using mono and a lighter rod for the past year. I've only tried the braid a few times and wasn't impressed at all for flipping purposes. I'll leave it on my frod rod, but thats all I use it for. Thanks!
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 02:27 AM
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No offense man,but you can't generate 25 pounds of pressure at the end of your line on a hookset.
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Re: Flipping line problems
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09/25/09 02:53 AM
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Cobra66
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Had same problem. Went with triple fish line and it solved it for me. 20lb is good but have been able to go to 15 in light cover and not break the line. That perlon line has a nice stretch and it doesn't seem to weaken it to much after being stretched.
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Re: Flipping line problems
[Re: Cobra66]
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09/25/09 03:01 AM
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catslayer
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obviously he did somehow... or damaged the line to the point it didn't take that much pressure(also rather hard to do with 65 pound braid)... help him out don't tell him he isn't breaking fish...
"I'll never mess with bee's or wasp anymore, and I'll never gig another beaver..." Words from a man who learned things the hard way
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