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Jon boat on lake question
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07/07/09 03:12 AM
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Al Ramirez
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I have just recently finished working on my jon boat a 14ft Sears Gamefisher with a 3hp Gamefisher motor which runs really good. Being new to the boating world but not new to driving bigger 18ft boats with 80hp+ motors would it be okay to take this jon boat to the lakes around San Antonio with no problems? I'm interested in Calaveras and Braunig mostly. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. This is all I can afford right now and it would be 2 people fishing off of it. Just want to know how many others fish these jon boats with smaller outboards in lakes. I'd really like to know everything I should before taking the boat out to the lake for that first fishing trip. Like how much gas I would need, places to avoid on a a small boat etc. I would like to be well prepared. Thanks and happy fishing!
Last edited by Al Ramirez; 07/07/09 03:15 AM.
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
[Re: Al Ramirez]
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07/07/09 11:58 AM
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BillS2006
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You should be fine as long as you pay attention to the wind. At first sign of the wind picking up go home!
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
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07/07/09 12:12 PM
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Bass&More
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Sweet ride !!!!!! and welcome to the TFF 
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
[Re: Bass&More]
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07/07/09 12:21 PM
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David Lee
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You will be fine just watch the wind. Put in close to where you want to fish.
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
[Re: Al Ramirez]
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07/07/09 12:45 PM
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Jimbo
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I fish Calaveras often and have had my 14' boat on just about every lake in south and central Texas and even Amistad and Falcon, and also I fish from a kayak, so it's not the size of the boat so much that makes it a good choice for a fishing boat.
You have to think about personal safety first, and that means don't put the boat on the water if it's not seaworthy, and that means making sure it's in perfect shape engine wise, and you have all the required saftey equipment.
Also that you know and follow all the rules of being courteous at the ramps, and docks and have everything ready before you even attempt to launch.
The biggest mistake new boaters make is waiting until they are on the launch and start unloading everything, and that is where a lot of people get into trouble, such as leaving the drain plug out or forgetting life jackets, or just being a pain at the launch making others wait until you get out of the way.
Like others have said you have to pay attention to the weather and especially wind and in a 14' boat any wind over 15 stay off the main lake, and concentrate on protected water where you don't have to venture into open water. And if there is a chance that storms are possible you have to watch because they can pop up and if you are on the water, the best thing to do is find a close shoreline and wait it out.
Boats and water, are a natural, and so is common sense, and a lot of people leave the common sense at home or some don't have any, and you will see plenty of proof of this once you start going often to the lake with you new boat.
Be Safe and hope to see you on Calaveras sometime.
Drop over to the Catfish section as there is a lot of Calaveras fishermen there to help you out.
Just one more cast!
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
[Re: Jimbo]
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07/07/09 02:02 PM
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My first boat was a 11 1/2' fiberglass v-bottom Dad bought in Oregon and car topped back to Indiana and I hauled down to Texas. The first trip inthat little boat took to Adults and two kids salmon fishing in Puget Sound. I used it on Monroe Reservoir in Bloomington Indiana before the lake was officially opened, at least I used it til some game warden said nothing under 14' was allowed and that I had to use the boat ramp to launch. I used that little boat, a 1955 5hp Johnson Seahorse motor to run on Lake of the Pines. That all took place when I was young and dumb and not scared of anything. Wouldn't dare take it out today. The point being that any boat t hat floats has limits. Like the others guys said pay attention to the wind. It is not hard to swamp a small open boat. Pay attention tot he weight limit of your boat. Wioth only a 3hp kicker pay close attention to the weather. If you see a storm coming quit early and head for the ramp. The little motor won't push that boat much faster than a 50# thrust trolling motor. I speak from experience because I have a 3 hp Tanaka motor I used on my 13'6" v bottom aluminum boat along with a 50# thrust trolling motor. Tanaka is the firm t hat made the gamefisher motor. Anyway enjoy the fire out of that boat and don't worry about the big boys. They are paying through the nose to own and operate those $40,000 bass rigs. Yours will get you to the same place just slower and a heck of a lot cheaper.
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
[Re: grandpa75672]
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07/07/09 02:22 PM
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Al Ramirez
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Thanks for the advice. I just wanted to make sure that I would be ok with the boat on the lake as I can't wait to venture beyond bank fishing there which isn't too much fun when you're looking at the boats on the water. I know the 3hp isn't too big but its what I've got and I was just hoping it would take me and another person to the "crappie wall" which I read so much about and other spots to catch reds and bass. I only plan to go on nice days and definately hope to makes some buddies here. I'm working on a trailer for it now so it's riding in the back of the truck for its first few voyages. By the way Grandpa75672 How far will that little motor go on a full tank? I know its a built in tank and I plan on taking a 3 or 5 gallon gas can to refill but I'm just curious how far one tank will get me. Thanks again! Also for a jon boat is it better to stay close to the shore or can i go to the middle of the lake to fish if i wanted to? Of course on nice days. Also why avoid the wind? I understand strong wind but will I just have a hard time getting back to shore or will it just push these little boats around too much? It light wind ok?
Last edited by Al Ramirez; 07/07/09 02:25 PM.
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
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07/07/09 02:31 PM
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SKEETER151
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My first boat was a 14 foot Jon... I had a 15hp Evnrude on it with green indoor/outdoor carpet on the floors. two swivel seats and a 30 pound trolling motor. wide scan hummingbird. I was 15 years old and I was set!!
I treated that thing like my bad arse step child! Ran over stumps and trees like they were nothing... but I caught fish in areas most people didnt even see!
Soooo you got a chance to get back in some areas with that boat so go find YOUR honey holes!
The boat will take some getting used to in big waves but ride the waves like a surf board!! WEAR a life jacket! Get a electric bilge pump, a hand pump, and some underwater putty glue stuff... your gonna need it if you pop a rivet... hehehehe but its a ton of fun!!
If my MOM saw me doing those things back in the day I would not have a arse left!!
good luck out there!!
Land was created to provide a place for boats to visit!! It is when pirates count their booty that they become mere thieves. ARRRRRR....
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
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07/07/09 03:25 PM
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roger t
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All good advice! I have owned three Jons & have had a ball with all three. Just use your head & WEAR a comfortable life jacket. Keep in mind, Braunig & Calaveras can get rough in a matter of minutes. Been there...done that! Roger
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
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07/07/09 03:33 PM
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neverquit
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The wind whips up big waves. Big waves are a danger to boats. As long as the water is fairly smooth, you can go anywhere you want. Like everybody has said, watch the weather and run for cover before it gets bad.
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
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07/07/09 04:21 PM
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Rudy Lackey
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The wind whips up big waves. Big waves are a danger to boats. As long as the water is fairly smooth, you can go anywhere you want. Like everybody has said, watch the weather and run for cover before it gets bad. Good advice !
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
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07/07/09 04:34 PM
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Jimbo
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The wind is what makes it dangerous being in a small boat, and a small motor doesn't have enough power to push a boat with two people with enough unmmmph to get the bow up over the waves, and you can end up having a big wave come over the bow which is the main danger, plus the wind will catch that boat and whip it around and if you don't have power to counter that it's pretty much going to do you in also.
Like I said if it's blowing 15 you need to stay close to shore and out of the wind and especially out of the direct waves, and if its higher than 15 mph then don't even think about launching as that small a motor will not be able to go into or across that kind of wind and you will be an accident waiting to happen.
A small motor especially a new one can go a long way on a tank of gas, so just carry a funnel and a gallon extra, and if you get across the lake and check the gas and it's low then refill it and head for the launch.
You should be able to go to the crappie wall or the high lines to the right of the launch with no problem on a tank of gas.
When you launch go toward the right from the launch and that will take you near the high lines and you will know you are there because you can't miss them as they go across the lake there and you'll see a big reed bed on the right and a small cove just before the reeds.
Fish that right bank directly across from the power plant anywhere from the launch to the high lines, and you should do really well on just about every species.
Locate some fish and remember the spots, and you'll find plenty fish without running all over the lake.
So what I'm saying is you don't have to launch and go to the opposite side of lake, like most people do as there are plenty of fish close where you won't even burn that full tank in your motor on two trips, unless you just want to boat ride, and with a tiny motor like yours, you need to forget the boat ride and concentrate on finding fish.
You also can catch plenty fish along the dam from the park side to the gate house and that won't use much gas, and you'll be out of the southeast prevailing wind.
Lot's of options, and lots of good fishing where you don't need to worry about running out of gas!
Just one more cast!
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
[Re: Jimbo]
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07/07/09 05:26 PM
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Al Ramirez
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Thanks alot all this info really really helps alot. Now I have a good idea where to go and start fishing and what not to do. I appreciate the comments and will hopefully see you guys out there in the next few weeks.
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
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07/13/09 05:56 PM
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Al Ramirez
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Re: Jon boat on lake question
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07/13/09 07:04 PM
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Mexicajun1
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The wind is what makes it dangerous being in a small boat, and a small motor doesn't have enough power to push a boat with two people with enough unmmmph to get the bow up over the waves, and you can end up having a big wave come over the bow which is the main danger, plus the wind will catch that boat and whip it around and if you don't have power to counter that it's pretty much going to do you in also.
Like I said if it's blowing 15 you need to stay close to shore and out of the wind and especially out of the direct waves, and if its higher than 15 mph then don't even think about launching as that small a motor will not be able to go into or across that kind of wind and you will be an accident waiting to happen.
A small motor especially a new one can go a long way on a tank of gas, so just carry a funnel and a gallon extra, and if you get across the lake and check the gas and it's low then refill it and head for the launch.
You should be able to go to the crappie wall or the high lines to the right of the launch with no problem on a tank of gas.
When you launch go toward the right from the launch and that will take you near the high lines and you will know you are there because you can't miss them as they go across the lake there and you'll see a big reed bed on the right and a small cove just before the reeds.
Fish that right bank directly across from the power plant anywhere from the launch to the high lines, and you should do really well on just about every species.
Locate some fish and remember the spots, and you'll find plenty fish without running all over the lake.
So what I'm saying is you don't have to launch and go to the opposite side of lake, like most people do as there are plenty of fish close where you won't even burn that full tank in your motor on two trips, unless you just want to boat ride, and with a tiny motor like yours, you need to forget the boat ride and concentrate on finding fish.
You also can catch plenty fish along the dam from the park side to the gate house and that won't use much gas, and you'll be out of the southeast prevailing wind.
Lot's of options, and lots of good fishing where you don't need to worry about running out of gas! Great advice Jimbo and I was just going to mention to him about staying close to the rip-rap on the dam. The reds run through there quite a bit and early in the morning you can hang some nice BIG blue cats there also. Rob
One of these days I'm going to Land the BIG ONE!!
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