Pat I think your taking something out of context there. I was saying that if your standing on the front of the boat fishing right next to him your not going to outfish him 10-1 or 5-1. More like 1-1. No we have not been schooling anybody. We are going to fish Div 1 at Texoma yes. Why not. Something wrong with that? And Im not fishing only the one tourney Im going to fish fork too. I finally hired someone who can cover me at work on Sundays so Ill be able to fish more.

Same deal on texoma, only slips working now have 20ft of water under them.

It was the same way the last time I went to Grapevine with Stucky.

Jerry,

I'm glad to hear Lavon is heating up (pun intended). Those are some awesome catches and very satisfied clents.

In all the times I fished (bass) with my dad in the Atchafalaya Basin in the late 50s and early 60s before we commerically crawfished, I out caught him once and had the bigger fish. But the important thing as I look back to that time, it wouldn't have happened if Dad hadn't PUT me on the fish.

It's a whole different set of circumstances to out catch someone when they put you on the fish versus they have to find their own fish before catching, something any novice fisher should remember before thinking they are Guy Jr., Ernest Jr., Jerry Jr., Paul Jr., Ahn Jr., James Jr. or the likes of Wally Jr.

My personal experience is after leaving bridge and marina fishing behind, crappie fishing becomes a whole new ball game. Nothing wrong fishing these structures because my success rate was higher than it is now when that is all I knew. But I now know a lot more about crappie fishing now than I ever thought I would and what I really like is when I find them on my own . Although I screwed up at the Lavon Fun tournament for the weigh-in time, knowing my first five and second five would have won, did a lot for my confidence (It was I who put my partner and I on the fish because I pre-fished solo) but in no way placed me in an elite category of the above mentioned and well earned greats (IMO) of crappie fishing.

CAT now has some youngster fishing regularly including a young lass. We've had some backseats available. It would be nice to have some more kids take advantage of these opportunities assuming the boater would agree.

Thanks for the great report Jerry.

Brian we fish on Saturday not Sunday. Glad to hear that you be able attend. I think you should read your post, you said he would out fish them. When you speak in general terms and are not specfic how is one to interpt it.
Anyone as you can see by the post can catch fish next to these guys. The clients are not seasoned fishermen yet catch plenty of fish. It is one thing to be on fish when someone else has found them it is another to be the one who found them. I think you would agree that there is more to this than just dropping a jig in the water. Anthony is a nice young man and might turn out to be a great fisherman one day. For now until you have some skins on the wall it might be better to be humble and continue to learn form these great fishermen then to openly challenge them.

Quite frankly I don't care what div you fish in.

Anyway let me be the first to welcome you to our tourney trail. Good luck.

Jerry, I was thinking the fish was only 3/4 from a 3 lber, which we all know is rare for these parts. It would have been interesting to have taken a scale from that fish and have it analysed for its age or by whatever method is used.

I've heard/read crappie live about 7 years, maybe 10 (don't know if true or not). I would like to know how much more growing time remained with a fish like that is.

Let's estimate, assuming 7 years is the old age, and the fish was 6 to 7 years old, then it would probably mean the liklihood of catching a 3 lb would indeed be rare, at least for Lavon. BTW, the Lavon record white is 2.73lbs.

On the other hand if the crappie were younger, then the liklihood of larger crappie roaming Lavon should be higher depending on growth.

Anyway, just food for thought.

Pat the intention was not to challenge anyone. I was simply telling Anthony that he would not likely get whooped like Jerry put on his buddy from Oklahoma that he fished with since the 70's.

Only fishing division one in case we get lucky

Jimmy always great to hear the stories of people fishing with there fathers. I've always wished mine was more interested in it.

Brian I have never been very good at reading between the lines thanks for the clafication. Again good luck to the two of you.

No problem Pat. I may not be the brightest crayon in the box but I know better than to call out the crappie gods. Im still a rokkie when it comes to this crappie stuff. The only reason I want to fish div 1 is on Texoma Im very confident that I can at least catch 7 keepers. I hadnt spoke to my partner about that so I may eat crow and fish div 2 if thats what he wants to do.

Jimmy,

I was guessing 2.25# but my buddy weighed the fish on some stamp scales and it weighed 2pounds 7 ounces. Good fish for July on any lake. I'd like to have caught her in April, I think she would have pushed the lake record.
On the other subject,
I take no offense to Brian remarks, there are many guys and girls out there that can out fish me standing side by side. Anthony might be able to catch more than me or some of these other guys mentioned but I do agree with Patmado that finding Crappie and catching Crappie are two different animals I think that is what separates the good from average.
We all can look good on our home lake, tournaments are the best teacher when it comes to finding fish. I have always had great respect for the guys that seem to finish near the top more often than not. Wally/Jeff, Capps/Coleman, Dooley,Mccaffrey, Thompson/Thompson, Rogers/Rogers, O'Bier/Simms those are my hero's. The guys that go out and produce day after day, tournament after tournament I can see many others on the CAT trail that in time will be right there tournament after tournament.
Anthony can get there I have no doubt. It feels good to have people believe in you and Brian believes in Anthony and I know it makes Anthony feel good.
Feeling good about yourself is important and being a little cocky doesn't hurt

When Anthony beats me at a tournament, I'll be the first to shake his hand and congratulate him. Any of the of the above mentioned would also. When I won the CUSA Regional, Wally was the first person to shake my hand. I've never forgotten that and never will
He told me I would be hooked on tournaments and I have been ever since

Thats great Jerry!

Nice Catch!

Filing this one away for another day.