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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: Bittercreek]
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06/02/09 05:30 PM
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Devildog28
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So you're going to put a big tiger shark through an ordeal that to bring it in requires it exhausted almost to the point of death just to yank a tooth out of it's jaw and cause it further pain? That's pretty selfish and VERY BAD sportsmanship IMO. Sharks are way too important to the eco system and threatened enough to warrant a second thought about trying to catch one for jewelry.
....Maybe "guides" should be required to take a course in biology and sportsmanship to become one. I respect your post, and I do agree with most of comments, I is not my intention to kill the Shark, my understanding folks catch sharks all the time, and target them exclusively. Perhaps those who feel as you, should band together, form a coalition and lobby for a rules change. Also, in order to help you sleep better at nite over my request to the forum on info. on this matter; tell me where I can purchase a fake TigerShark tooth. For your trouble, I will buy 2, and send one to you. That way, you and I booth can have one, and two tigers will be swimming the water with a full set of dentures. One more thing, there Mr. Helper. I do have a degree in Biologly, and one in Science. Thanks Bittercreek. My stance is that I would never target sharks because I'm not going to eat them, nor should anyone else because of the great health risks. I don't really think that those who target them are degenerates, but I think there are more worthwhile fish out there. On the other hand if I caught one while fishing for something else I wouldn't feel bad about it. I've just seen too many people kill animals for bs reasons to not speak up. But hey would you rather read this or a bragging post about keeping 20 specks and double digit reds?
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: Devildog28]
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06/02/09 06:04 PM
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Devildog, My personal opinion is that bass fishing is a waste of time. Using your logic, if it were up to me we'd outlaw bass fishing.
If people are doing what they did in the old days when they targeted sharks to catch, kill and then hang at the docks for the gawkers then I'd agree with you. I know plenty of folks that target sharks, catch them and then release them alive.
I'm not condemning you or your thoughts but maybe you ought to try to see another perspective. Yours is not the only one out there and it's necessarily correct.
And by the way, shark meat is very good to eat.
Mike Buda/Port Aransas, TX
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: Devildog28]
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06/02/09 06:15 PM
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Jeffrito
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Just curious with this question: Anybody run into sharks (& what kind/size) fishing flats for reds & specs? How about local surf fishing around Port Aransas, Rockport, etc.?
I just got back from Florida (Sanibel Island) where I was surf fishing (NOT in flats) with dead shrimp, which were attached to my waist, which stayed underwater (what a moron). I was a walking chum bucket, but didn't think about it. My 8-yr-old son was about 12' away from me. When I was done fishing, I started walking toward him. When I got to about 6' from him, something spooked and took off away from us. I could see just a couple of feet past my son was a dorsal fin, a rubbery-looking back (maybe 2 1/2 feet of it was exposed) and such a huge body size that it made that deep thrashing sound, making a rather large wake as it took off. Creeped me out. Just thought I'd ask about local Texas experiences.
Thanks.
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: Jeffrito]
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06/02/09 06:23 PM
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Jeffrito, Like I tell the average tourist that acts surprised when I reel a shark onto the beach, only feet from where there kids are swimming...The gulf is part of the ocean. It's saltwater. That's where sharks live. It begins where the sand ends.
I've had sharks come up in less than 1 foot of water on the beach. The largest bull shark caught in Texas waters (close to 600 lbs) was about 2 years ago in the Lydia Ann Channel, which is considered the bay.
There are sharks in the bay systems. They take stringers and bait off of wade fishermen all of the time, in the surf and bays.
On another note you have a greater chance of being hit by a stingray than bit by a shark. But don't invite them to dinner by wearing it around your waist. That's asking for trouble.
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Mike Buda/Port Aransas, TX
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: LandPirate]
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06/02/09 06:51 PM
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Jeffrito
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What a thorough (and sobering) answer- and rocket fast! Thanks so much for all of that. Living and learning. (And there's so much to learn).
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: LandPirate]
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06/02/09 07:31 PM
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Devildog28
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Devildog, My personal opinion is that bass fishing is a waste of time. Using your logic, if it were up to me we'd outlaw bass fishing.
If people are doing what they did in the old days when they targeted sharks to catch, kill and then hang at the docks for the gawkers then I'd agree with you. I know plenty of folks that target sharks, catch them and then release them alive.
I'm not condemning you or your thoughts but maybe you ought to try to see another perspective. Yours is not the only one out there and it's necessarily correct.
And by the way, shark meat is very good to eat. 1. Please point out where I said it should be outlawed 2. I posted that I find no fault with someone who does target them. Just not my style. That debunks your perception that I'm narrow minded. I even said I wouldn't feel bad if somehow I hooked one. It's gonna happen someday anyways. 3. Shark meat is very high in mercury especially the bigger ones this prompting health advisories. I'm not mad, just take a sec to read an entire post before drawing conclusions.
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: Devildog28]
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06/02/09 08:04 PM
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You said that you don't target sharks and nor should anyone else.....That's where I was coming from. I'm not mad either. I'm just pointing out that there are different strokes for different folks.
As for Mercury levels in fish...Kings and many other species are loaded with it. That's why an experienced angler keeps smaller fish for table fare. Less age means less mercury. I don't keep large kings, sharks, reds, blacks or anything else for that matter.
I don't know of anyone that keeps large sharks for food. There are plenty of them that keep 'em for trophy status, though. And I whole heartedly disagree with this practice. As with any caught fish, if you're not going to eat it, don't kill it.
However, I do not see a problem in a sport fisherman targeting a particular big game fish like tiger sharks, blue marlin, tarpon as long as they do their best to preserve the animal after the fight.
Mike Buda/Port Aransas, TX
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: JUNKIE]
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06/02/09 08:20 PM
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Bittercreek
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Go to ebay and type in tiger shark tooth. Spare the large shark and save the thousnad dollars + and the 25 trips to even begin to catch a tiger here in Texas. They are here but all the shark fisherman I know consider it a very big deal when they finally hook one and in most cases, the one you do catch here in TX will probably not satisfy the size of tooth you want. Alot of the shark fisherman i know hang out on the extremecoast board. You can judge for yourself the chances of actually landing one. Thats an idea I previous thought of. But where is the fun? I dont want to kill the tiger, just want one tooth, that way its from my own sweat and blood. Me and the tiger. Heck, did not realize in a million years I would have these many responses. Thanks for all the help folks. Thanks Bittercreek JUNKIE
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: Devildog28]
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06/02/09 08:22 PM
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Devildog, My personal opinion is that bass fishing is a waste of time. Using your logic, if it were up to me we'd outlaw bass fishing.
If people are doing what they did in the old days when they targeted sharks to catch, kill and then hang at the docks for the gawkers then I'd agree with you. I know plenty of folks that target sharks, catch them and then release them alive.
I'm not condemning you or your thoughts but maybe you ought to try to see another perspective. Yours is not the only one out there and it's necessarily correct.
And by the way, shark meat is very good to eat. 1. Please point out where I said it should be outlawed 2. I posted that I find no fault with someone who does target them. Just not my style. That debunks your perception that I'm narrow minded. I even said I wouldn't feel bad if somehow I hooked one. It's gonna happen someday anyways. 3. Shark meat is very high in mercury especially the bigger ones this prompting health advisories. I'm not mad, just take a sec to read an entire post before drawing conclusions. We did.
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: Bittercreek]
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06/02/09 08:52 PM
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Bittercreek
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Hell, lets all calm down and go to Costa Rica and catch a Sailfish. God-Bless; from -No Limits- Guide Service.
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
[Re: Bittercreek]
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06/02/09 09:11 PM
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Hell, lets all calm down and go to Costa Rica and catch a Sailfish. God-Bless; from -No Limits- Guide Service. I'm down with that. I'll bring the beer.
Mike Buda/Port Aransas, TX
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
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06/02/09 09:28 PM
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GOOD GOD !!!! always turns to this!!!!
Sharks loose more teeth than that when the attack and eat prey!!!! why do ya think they keep regrowing them!!
I love the smell of 2 stroke in the morning !!!
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
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06/02/09 09:42 PM
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Devildog, if it ain't your style or ruffles your feathers don't post. If the man wants to catch shark that tastes like [censored], then that is his right last time I checked. The way I understood his post he just wanted ONE freakin tooth and then to release the shark. I might question his sanity for reaching in its mouth to pull one out, but that is hardly comparable to an Asian cutting the fins off a shark and throwing it up on the rocks. That would be an illegal act.
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Re: Tiger Sharks.
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06/03/09 02:43 AM
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Bittercreek
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Devildog, if it ain't your style or ruffles your feathers don't post. If the man wants to catch shark that tastes like [censored], then that is his right last time I checked. The way I understood his post he just wanted ONE freakin tooth and then to release the shark. I might question his sanity for reaching in its mouth to pull one out, but that is hardly comparable to an Asian cutting the fins off a shark and throwing it up on the rocks. That would be an illegal act. Thank you sir.
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