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 Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Bazztex]
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05/19/09 09:49 AM
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M. Massoletti
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with the c-rig it could have been the rocks nicking it...and i am assuming the drop shot was a verticle presentation. If it was i wouldn't say that the drag there was the problem since it isn't a hard hookset...something to think about, if you bought the lane at the same place they may have just got in a bad batch of line from the manufacturer...if you like the trilene and haven't had problems before this might try getting it from a different supplier. just my .02 worth
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: M. Massoletti]
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05/19/09 11:26 PM
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Thirsty
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I was casting the drop and working it from 3 to 12 feet of water. C-Rig and T-rig wasn't producing Saturday but lightly shaking the the TS rig was producing several bites. I hooked and landed the mjority of the bites I got. Just had the four that felt like the fish ran by and cut the line with sissors. You could say that my TS was being worked very much like a C-Rig except for raising the bait off the bottom gently shaking it and letting fall back to the bottom.
Great responses guys and thanks. I have good top of line equipment and will set the drags accordingly.
I have not had issues with Tri-100% in the past except for breaking the line on the T-rig hook set, and that was the old school "crank it down" drag setting. Currently have Seager and XPS spooled up on other rods and will try LFT line before long.
Thanks You All
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Thirsty]
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05/20/09 12:20 AM
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Fish Ninja
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I set my drag where it slips when I set the hook. As long as I can pull it out it is fine for me. I've kind of developed a feel for how easily I can pull line out though.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Clint Wr]
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05/20/09 01:22 AM
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bassdreamer
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It's not you! I have had all kinds of problems with floro until I started using the new LFT line. I know it sounds like a commercial, but I experienced the same type of random line breakage simply due to getting kinks in the line. One kink on traditional floro and you can count on a break. Not so with the Parahellium lines. They cast like a dream and work great.
On a side note: Don't use floro for your c-rig leader. You want the lure to float off the bottom and floro sinks.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Thirsty]
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05/20/09 01:29 AM
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The Natural
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First breakage issues I've read concerning Trilene 100%. I've been using it for almost 2 years and haven't broken off a fish yet. Looking at your setup versus mine....I can't help but think it's the braid. It's the only thing that is different compared to my rigs.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Clint Wr]
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05/20/09 01:46 AM
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Codemaster
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+1 When using braid mainline with a flouro leader. 1. do not set the hook as hard 2. use a rod with a parabolic bend, not a broom stick! Sounds like you're putting too much stress on the leader when setting the hook. Reason being- no stretch with braid; therefore the leader is taking the full brunt of the force.
Last edited by Codemaster; 05/20/09 01:53 AM.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Codemaster]
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05/21/09 12:40 AM
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Thirsty
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Great stuff you all and I have learned alot. TFF folks have been good folks with a wealth of fishing knowledge to share. Thanks
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Thirsty]
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05/21/09 12:46 AM
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Bigron119
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You will have to make some adjustments if you want to stick with fluoro for your leader material. Either loosen up the drag, or don't set the hook as hard. Remember the braid won't stretch and the fluoro stretches little. (It also sinks.) Ideally you would want to use mono to help the lure float and you would also get the benefit of the (slightly) more stretch to help forgive a strong hookset. You might also consider the rod. A heavy 7'6" rod will snap something! A med/hvy rod might be a consideration. The C-Rig speciality rods are very good for what they are designed for.
I use 15 mono with braid all the time and have no problems. Then again there can always be a bad spool of line, even if it's new.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Bigron119]
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05/21/09 02:22 AM
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fishincontrol
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I am poor and cannot afford flourocarbon anymore...I switched to Suffix ('cause it's cheap) and have not broken off since...but probably only got 75% of the bites I would have gotten with flouro. Last year I lost about 5 moneyfish setting the hook because what Clint says is true...wrong rod! If you cannot afford more rods, switch lines and just expect less bites...helluva comprimise though.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: fishincontrol]
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05/21/09 02:38 AM
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SkeeterRonnie
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tie about 25 yards of suffix to a stationary object and grab the other end and pull it until it breaks.. i did not like the excessive stretch in suffix. imagine how much sweep you will need to set the hook with a rubberband line  i have gone back to two lines. invisx for finesse, and biggame for everything else. the line conditioner manages the biggame memory.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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05/21/09 02:48 AM
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fishincontrol
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But Ronnie, I am an exceptional hook-setter! Not to mention, a cheap-azz.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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05/21/09 08:55 PM
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bassitup
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bps flouro the best ever in the whole world and space too.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Thirsty]
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05/22/09 02:39 PM
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Joefishin
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Had some weird line problems this weekend. Friday pre-fishing on Joe Pool I was using a C-Rig with 30 braid and 15# Flouro (Trilene 100%). Fish hits my lizard I side sweep the rod to set the hook. Feel the fish for a split second and all goes limp. Line broke between hook and swivel. No curl at the end of the line like a knot break would leave.
Saturday during tournament twice on the drop shot my line breaks above the hook on 10# Flouro (Trilene 100%). and once on 12# Flouro (Trilene 100%).
On all four occasions I never fought the fish, it hit, I reacted and the line just let go like the fish had scissors. I can break 20# Flouro on a straight hook set but I have been reeling down to the fish and side sweeping. Just as effective but not as hard on the knots.
I was fishing hard bottom (rocky areas) and brush so I must be nicking the line but I have never encountered anything like this before. Wouldn't say any of the fish would have won the tournament but I would have liked to at least got to see them! What is problem and the fix?
This happen on two different rod and reel setups..
Back off your drag, floro and braid have no give. Honestly, I was having the same trouble, backing off the drag helped. But I'm so bad about it, I had to switch back to a copoly line for leader for the stretch.
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
[Re: Joefishin]
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05/22/09 03:01 PM
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Bigbassindaddy
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A lot of good advise, but something that hasn't been considered is what knot and making sure you LUBRICATE it very well before sinching it down. Flouro is VERY prone to breakage if that knot isn't lubricated before sinching it down. Just a thought.
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