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Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy #2387604 06/21/08 05:50 PM
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Does anyone know how accurate the Ray Roberts corps brush pile coordinates are on the Martin's Maps?


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Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: 74aggie] #2387803 06/21/08 07:58 PM
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Not accurate all. I have yet to find a brush pile where they are given on the GPS. They are close but not right on. One brush pile according to Martins GPS was about two feet off the shore in 2 feet of water. I do like the map though. Its great for finding the under water points.


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Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: BAND OF BROTHERS] #2387811 06/21/08 08:04 PM
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That's good to hear...I loaded Martin's numbers and couldn't find the BP's either...Is there a more reliable source?...


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Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: Martin Ping] #2388594 06/22/08 07:17 AM
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The issue is the datums are different. The Martin's map uses the North American Datum of 1927 (NAD27). Your GPS very likely uses the the World Geodetic System of 1984 (WGS84).

Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: SheldonS] #2388655 06/22/08 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: SheldonS
The issue is the datums are different. The Martin's map uses the North American Datum of 1927 (NAD27). Your GPS very likely uses the the World Geodetic System of 1984 (WGS84).


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Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: Matthew Carroll] #2388692 06/22/08 10:05 AM
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I have about 500 dollars in Electronics on my boat. So to many I am way under technology. but have searched for many corp piles and found most not all. Sometimes takes 30 min to find a new one and for me they are way off..Run depths straigth along contours back and forth until I hit the jack pot starting at about 20 ft deep working to 35. Most of the good corp piles are hit hard and heavy all weekend long just look for the boats on them. I have 6 RR lake maps gotten over the past years since RR opened and they all show different Variations Brush piles I like to go by my 1995 Map.

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Yep, Sheldon is the man on GPS and sonar...IMO...

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Originally Posted By: LipRippin
I have about 500 dollars in Electronics on my boat. So to many I am way under technology. but have searched for many corp piles and found most not all. Sometimes takes 30 min to find a new one and for me they are way off..Run depths straigth along contours back and forth until I hit the jack pot starting at about 20 ft deep working to 35. Most of the good corp piles are hit hard and heavy all weekend long just look for the boats on them. I have 6 RR lake maps gotten over the past years since RR opened and they all show different Variations Brush piles I like to go by my 1995 Map.


That was definitely the case today.

We got on the water @6 630 AM, off of it (baked like filets in the oven) @ 230 PM. 4 keepers, 5 or so broken lines, a few sandies, and about 10 throwbacks.

I have never seen RR so busy with boat traffic on ANY weekend over the past 6 years than I saw today. Every brushpile (about the first 10 for sure) had a dang boat on it and that was the first few hours of the morning. Where everyone came from, who knows. The ramps were busy like you'd see at the more inner Metro lakes. It was insane.

There was no wind, which in the morning, was great, but by midday, we had to jump in the water to cool down or just soak our heads and drive the boat a bit. It was fun, but wore us out (both on 4 hours sleep because we couldn't get sleepy until almost midnight).


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Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: Big_CatEM] #2389690 06/22/08 09:00 PM
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Big Cat,
No secret spots - getting some serious pressure on weekends.
Doesnt everybody know that all the good crappie fishing is at Cedar Creek. LOL

Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: 74aggie] #2389875 06/22/08 10:08 PM
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I entered Martin's brush coordinates for RR in a new Hummingbird 797c2 and some are off more than fifty yards. So much for techonolgy.

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Originally Posted By: Jig Head
I entered Martin's brush coordinates for RR in a new Hummingbird 797c2 and some are off more than fifty yards. So much for techonolgy.


Information on map datums...

http://www.maptools.com/UsingUTM/mapdatum.html

"In the Continental United States the difference between WGS 84 and NAD 27 can be as much as 200 meters."


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Great topic. Thanks for mentioning the datums, Sheldon.

Most GPS units should allow you to change the datum settings. Whenever I receive new coordinates I check the datum source. If it is something besides WGA84 or if the format (deg,min,sec or deg,min.min for example)is different, I change my GPS to the appropriate datum and format before entering the coordinates. After entering the coordinates, I change my GPS back to WGA84 and the format I prefer. This gives me the best accuracy and keeps me from converting formats.



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Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: oldmerc] #2392962 06/23/08 09:23 PM
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Excellent information. Thanks, and off I go to change my datum settings !


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Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: 74aggie] #2453946 07/14/08 05:06 PM
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I placed an order 3 weeks ago and still no maps yet, has anybody else had trouble that might of placed an order?

Re: Martin's Map Brush Pile Accuracy [Re: Chiz] #2455051 07/14/08 10:46 PM
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I just drove over to One Map Place in Carrollton.
They have almost every map known to mankind in stock.
They are VERY helpful and friendly. Ask any question and they will take all the time you need or want.

You can order on line if you want.

http://www.onemapplace.com/


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