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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: gclark]
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06/04/08 02:01 PM
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SkeeterRonnie
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Ronnie, are you responding to me? I never said anything about a wall cloud. . no- response was supposed to be for DJDiggyDiggy...
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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06/04/08 03:27 PM
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Razorback
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My partner and I were prefishing for the Fishers of Men tournament on Cedar Creek last month. We were working our way down the bank when we started fishing around a boat dock.
In a minute, my partner said, "Uh oh. Look at the guy coming toward us. He looks MAD."
About that time, the disgruntled dock owner walked right to the edge of the water, pulled out his digital camera, and started taking pictures of us...with his best "I'm ***ed off, don't screw with me!" look on his face. It was almost funny how mean the guy was trying to look.
I looked at him and said, "What do you think you are doing? We are fishing public water."
He just looked even madder, and kept clicking away.
Finally, he said, "I've had too much stuff stolen off my dock!"
To which I replied, "Yeah, we came over here and launched our $40,000 bass boat so we could steal what...your lawn furniture?"
It was obvious the guy just wanted to run us off because he doesn't want anyone fishing his dock. Unfortunately, he ran across someone who knows the law.
I wonder how many other fishermen he has been successful in intimidating, and depriving them of their legal right to fish around his dock or anywhere else on the lake.
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: Razorback]
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06/04/08 06:16 PM
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xgenex
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During the Catfish Splash last year on Fork we pulled up to a dock to fish first thing in the morning. The Owner came down and asked if we were fishing for his fish around his dock. We told him yes, so he went and got a hammer and some nails and started banging on his dock. He was doing his best to make as much noise as possible. We sit there for a while and watched him work up a sweat. So we moved in a little closer so we could watch him work. He made a comment about us giving him a reason to work on his dock. We sit there for over two hour just to let him work longer. We did'nt catch any more fish there but it was worth the time we spent there. As we pulled out we told him to have a nice day and he told us good luck with fishing.
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: xgenex]
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06/05/08 02:07 AM
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Hank1951
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Sounds to me like some of these dock owners are afraid that some fisherman will steal his wife or daughjter away or already has!! LOL!! There always has to be an anal orifice like one that has just learned the word "DUDE" !!LOL!! HOTDIGGITY DIGITY DANG!!LOL!!
Keep your powder dry & don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes!!
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: djdiggydiggy]
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06/05/08 06:50 AM
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Baylor_Guy�
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If he really wanted cover, he could of had it...at the marina he launched from...
I nominate this for the TFF jerkoff quote of the year
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: Fast Lane]
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06/05/08 08:13 AM
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intexlarry
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Fishing on our little lake is more a social event than a fishing trip. Going from dock to dock visiting with the neighbors is the best part of being out. Does it upset me when a fisherman does damage to my dock by hanging up and breaking something trying to get lose or hitting my dock with their boat, yes it does. But, the most damage is a skier or jet sky running 3 or 4 feet off my dock. As a dock owner I can see a little of both sides, but rude, there is never a reason for that.
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: intexlarry]
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06/05/08 11:01 AM
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SkeeterRonnie
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kill em with kindness. theres one on Cypress SPrings I was fishing one day. the owners came down and brought thier kids with them... i said my hi's and told them of the beautiful house and dock they had. They seemed kinda frustrated I was off the end of thier dock fishing and catching crappie after crappie. thier son(about 7 years old) grabbed his pole and had some wierd looking bait on it. he was interested in doing what I was doing. I watched for a minute and asked his dad if he minded I showed him how I was catching the crappie. I tied on a leadhead for the kid and gave him a handful of plastics that I was using. When he started catching them I told them to have a nice day... Now they wave at me whenever they see me. I understand some dock owners points of concern.. especially when I see a competitor bouncing 1 ounce jigs off thier pontoon boat and that ringing sound reigning thru the countryside!! use a little common sense and be careful around someone elses's property.
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: SkeeterRonnie]
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06/05/08 11:45 AM
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Yassir Sanchez
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The last two posts are the best on this thread.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: djdiggydiggy]
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06/05/08 12:00 PM
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gclark
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So, are you saying that after the 20 minute break you headed back just in case another storm blew in, or did you continue fishing??? Interesting to know, because it indeed shows how much actual "danger" you believed yourself to be in, and exactly how you dealt with it in relation to the tournament. If you stayed and fished, then to myself you did not consider the situation that dangerous. But, if you left when there was a small break in the storm, now I believe that was prudent thinking and that your finding cover within a drivable distance was more than necessary.
Now, once again, threatening violence toward another for using their property??? That sounds like something unsafe and reckless...I don't need to talk to anyone to figure that out. Doesn't sound like a conservative angler to me at all...
So you keep huffing and puffing, using your little smileys and whatnot, and throwing names out here and there, but when you say that you are going to utilize someone's dock anyways without their permission and that they can't stop you, there's a name for that type of person...
As to you, GClark, no, I am not saying that taking shelter in someone else's dock is perhaps a malicious attempt to fish it... not at all, nor am I suggesting that the fisherman does not deserve the shelter...what I am saying though is that when someone else tells you not to use your property, and then they try to use it without your consent to get out of a situatiion in which they put themselves into with possible undercurrents of violence, doesn't seem so acceptable to me. Frankly, I don't care how old, or how experienced, or what the heck you think you are. I don't appreciate being called foolish by no one, especially someone that can't seem to watch the weather station or listen to it on the radio. You wanna go fishing when there's a possibility of a storm? Great. But know that you are putting yourself in danger. Do not act surprised when you are caught in a big storm. I am not hating the boater, "dude", but perhaps you should stop hating the dock owner so much and at least place the majority of the blame on the boater, "dude." First of all, there is no need for your apparent aggression toward me. I never called you foolish and I never said I was hating the dock owner. In fact I only said that the regs provide for safe harbor using any means necessary of any boater caught in inclement weather. I never addressed the violence issue you speak of so directing your comments concerning that to me are mis-directed. No need to get heated about it, we are merely discussing here. If "dude" offends you as you seemed to imply with your seemingly sarcastic quoted use of the word, then I take it back. I think your attitude of the angler putting himself in that situation is selfish one. For someone to think of it in that way doesn't make sense at all to me. Once again regardless of how or why they are caught in the storm, they need help. For someone to deny them shelter from a dangerous storm tells me a lot about that person. You always go back to someone being the blame. It is not about placing blame, it is about doing the right thing to help a fellow human being when they are in danger. I never said that I go fishing when there is a threat of a thunderstorm either. You need to keep your facts straight.
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: gclark]
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06/05/08 12:30 PM
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Yassir Sanchez
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So, are you saying that after the 20 minute break you headed back just in case another storm blew in, or did you continue fishing??? Interesting to know, because it indeed shows how much actual "danger" you believed yourself to be in, and exactly how you dealt with it in relation to the tournament. If you stayed and fished, then to myself you did not consider the situation that dangerous. But, if you left when there was a small break in the storm, now I believe that was prudent thinking and that your finding cover within a drivable distance was more than necessary.
Now, once again, threatening violence toward another for using their property??? That sounds like something unsafe and reckless...I don't need to talk to anyone to figure that out. Doesn't sound like a conservative angler to me at all...
So you keep huffing and puffing, using your little smileys and whatnot, and throwing names out here and there, but when you say that you are going to utilize someone's dock anyways without their permission and that they can't stop you, there's a name for that type of person...
As to you, GClark, no, I am not saying that taking shelter in someone else's dock is perhaps a malicious attempt to fish it... not at all, nor am I suggesting that the fisherman does not deserve the shelter...what I am saying though is that when someone else tells you not to use your property, and then they try to use it without your consent to get out of a situatiion in which they put themselves into with possible undercurrents of violence, doesn't seem so acceptable to me. Frankly, I don't care how old, or how experienced, or what the heck you think you are. I don't appreciate being called foolish by no one, especially someone that can't seem to watch the weather station or listen to it on the radio. You wanna go fishing when there's a possibility of a storm? Great. But know that you are putting yourself in danger. Do not act surprised when you are caught in a big storm. I am not hating the boater, "dude", but perhaps you should stop hating the dock owner so much and at least place the majority of the blame on the boater, "dude." First of all, there is no need for your apparent aggression toward me. I never called you foolish and I never said I was hating the dock owner. In fact I only said that the regs provide for safe harbor using any means necessary of any boater caught in inclement weather. I never addressed the violence issue you speak of so directing your comments concerning that to me are mis-directed. No need to get heated about it, we are merely discussing here. If "dude" offends you as you seemed to imply with your seemingly quoted sarcasm, then I take it back. I think your attitude of the angler putting himself in that situation is selfish one. For someone to think of it in that way doesn't make sense at all to me. Once again regardless of how or why they are caught in the storm, they need help. For someone to deny them shelter from a dangerous storm tells me a lot about that person. You always go back to someone being the blame. It is not about placing blame, it is about doing the right thing to help a fellow human being when they are in danger. I never said that I go fishing when there is a threat of a thunderstorm either. You need to keep your facts straight. Ignore him he is just trying to antagonize you.
"You've got to think lucky. If you fall into a mudhole, check your back pocket - you might have caught a fish" -- Darrell Royal
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: gclark]
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06/05/08 12:37 PM
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BridgeportGuide
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A few years ago, I witnessed an altercation here on BP that was a classic. I am chucking and reeling along the bank. I hear a woman cussing out a dock owner like a sailor. They were TIED up to his dock and keeping every Crappie they caught. The owner was asking calmly to please untie from his dock. This got a barrage of cussing in response.
They finally left, I talked with the owner who said these people had been doing this several days straight. He had called the GW who had not caught them yet.
A few days go by, I am in the same area again, and here is the same boat on the same dock. This time the owner is livid and the old woman is letting fly with the vulgarities.
The dock owner comes back with a power washer and starts to clean his dock, drenching these idiots. They have not returned since.
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: BridgeportGuide]
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06/05/08 01:04 PM
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gclark
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A few years ago, I witnessed an altercation here on BP that was a classic. I am chucking and reeling along the bank. I hear a woman cussing out a dock owner like a sailor. They were TIED up to his dock and keeping every Crappie they caught. The owner was asking calmly to please untie from his dock. This got a barrage of cussing in response.
They finally left, I talked with the owner who said these people had been doing this several days straight. He had called the GW who had not caught them yet.
A few days go by, I am in the same area again, and here is the same boat on the same dock. This time the owner is livid and the old woman is letting fly with the vulgarities.
The dock owner comes back with a power washer and starts to clean his dock, drenching these idiots. They have not returned since. Now this woman was wrong in tying to the owners dock. The owner would not have had a leg to stand on if they were just fishing the dock but by tying to it, they crossed the line, no pun intended. I want to also add that I have seen several posts on this thread that mentions the owners claiming the fish around their docks as their fish. We all know, or I hope we all know this is not true. The only thing in the lake that belongs to them is the dock itself. I have never had any trouble with dock owners, but as a lot have mentioned, being courteous and respectful of the dock owners property goes a long way. My stance in this thread has been that personal safety from a storm is a right regardless. All of the other circumstances that have been mentioned are irrelevant. Whether you are fishing a tourney or fishing for fun, didn't check the weather, or you did but still managed to get caught, none of that matters when the storm is on top of you. All that matters at that moment is that your safety is at risk and you need to take action. I would think there is not one law enforcement officer that would fault any boater who is seeking refuge from a storm in someones open boat slip.
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: djdiggydiggy]
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06/05/08 01:11 PM
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PGR Mike
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So, are you saying that after the 20 minute break you headed back just in case another storm blew in, or did you continue fishing??? Interesting to know, because it indeed shows how much actual "danger" you believed yourself to be in, and exactly how you dealt with it in relation to the tournament. If you stayed and fished, then to myself you did not consider the situation that dangerous. But, if you left when there was a small break in the storm, now I believe that was prudent thinking and that your finding cover within a drivable distance was more than necessary.
Once we went back out, there wasn't a single drop of rain, clouds were starting to break up and the sun was shining, so yes, I went back out because the storm passed. So I don't think there was anything to worry about. So don't keep throwing mud my way. I said your idea of going back to the marina we launched from was foolish, because it would have been absolutely stupid to try and make that kind of run in that weather.  Rather than try to analize my day on the water from behind a keyboard, please feel free to call me directly on this issue. 940-243-2628. I'll be more than happy to discuss this in person. Look up the weather for May 7th on the NOAA climatic data center. I think once you see the storm pass, it was perfectly clear with the exception of being a little breezy. 
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: PGR Mike]
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06/05/08 01:14 PM
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240yam
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i was fishing lake nacogdoches one night about midnight, and had an old lady came outside telling me i couldnt fish around her dock. i asked why not, and she said "because i said so!"i just ignored her comment, and fished anyway. she threw a fit and said she hated all the bass fishermen because they run the lake after dark, keeping her awake. i said in my most sincere voice, "well, thats what happens when you build a house on a public lake.". man, she got irate then, saying she was going to call the sherrif and such. i told her i would call him for her if she needed me to. her husband finally had enough of her mess, and told her to shut up and get in the house....
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Re: Rudest dock owners /payback a success
[Re: gitthanet]
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06/05/08 02:44 PM
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Guns Donavan
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Well on my dock, you can fish next to it all day. I don't care. Just don't tie up to it. Use your anchors.
During tournements bassboats come by like a train all day long, no problem.
And if there's an emergency situation like a storm, you're welcome to tie up to it and hang on until it passes.
I don't see the big deal about it.
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