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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Harold Ray] #2183125 04/17/08 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Harold Ray
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hey harold ... ain't nobody on here tryin' catch & eat up all the big fish ... blow yer smoke up somebodys hiney that don't have a clue as to what is goin' on


Albert,

You've got a long way to go before you should be turned loose in intelligent company. Until then, why don't you just hide somewhere and be quiet so you won't embarrass yourself.

I posted a study that describes what can happen if you take all or a lot of the big ones. It leaves you with a lot of little ones.

Personally, I don't care who likes or dislikes this report. Studies like this just give you an idea what happens if you abuse a resource. Personally, I much prefer smaller catfish over big catfish anyday, and I have fished for and enjoyed them for over 6 decades. They taste batter to me, about like a 9 month-old calf or yearling compared to the herd bull.

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you know i could care less what you personally like as far as eatin' catfish ... i've got a long way to go before i can be turned loose with intelligent company? ... why cuz i ain't just like you? ... or is cuz i got ye number?

you can take all your elitist carp & shove it on down the line


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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Catfishd] #2183165 04/17/08 08:39 PM
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LOL I dont worry about it cause most cant catch a 20 lber and you will see them say they prefer 1 lbers rolfmao . It is just more bigguns for me and the others. I can careless what everyone keeps or not as long as it is legal. None of my business. I worry about me and who is fishing with me only. noidea Some of yall should try it hahahaha. Say and post what you want. I catch and keep big fish all the time. But I dont waste them and there is nothing you can do to stop me unless they change the law flehan



Son,I am 62 years old,I am willing to bet i have turned loose more fish over 20 lb's than you have ever caught,That's a promise, rolfmao

Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Sixman] #2183213 04/17/08 08:52 PM
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Hmmmmm...the ole wifey has started to pack on some weight. I guess I need to try and catch a smaller younger one so I don't hurt the people population. Makes sense to me.


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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Harold Ray] #2183217 04/17/08 08:52 PM
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Actually, Danny, quite a few people catch 20# and larger cats, so don't get too overcome with how good you are. Possibly you have been fishing with too many people who don't know what they're doing


No I dont disagree with you that people catch 20 lbers and larger but you dont see many that do it on a CONSISTANT basis. On just about every trip or every other trip. Or hell once a month LOL. Its not the people I fish with that I make my observation its this forum and what I see on the lake.

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That's a good, solid sportsman-like attitude. There are somethings that are truly not the best thing to do, although they may not be illegal. It depends upon the good or great sportsmen to realize and decide what is best for a species. They don't make their decisions based on the fact that there's no law against it, so I'll just go ahead.

So far in life, I have been fortunate to fish and associate with sportmen who think of what is best for the fish and animals, not ones that do whatever they want just because its not against the law.

I hadn't anticipated posting the results of a study researching the affects of catching and keeping different sizes of fish to stimulate any controversy. That comes as a surprise.

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rolfmao I think I am very conservative and make the right decisions when it comes to CPR. The past two months I have caught 19 blues over 30 lbs all but 3 were released. Mainly cause it is legal to keep and eat them so I kept me some for the freezer. Although some think that is hurting the gene pool or population. I have this un sportsman like attitude on this forum cause I get tired of all these weekend warrior fisherman trying to tell me how when where to keep the fish I catch. If I want to eat what I catch I will as long as the law says I can. Me taking 10 or 11 Aps a year is not going to hurt the population of a 33,000 acre lake. I release most of the big cats I catch. But I do eat SOME. People see a study and say OMG they say dont keep big fish it hurts the population. Yes if everyone caught big fish and everyone kept every big fish they caught then yes it would. I catch my share of big fish. And I would say off the top of my head I keep probably 10% of those big fish. Unfortunatley I dont catch Aps over 30 lbs as often as I do blues. But if I did I would still only keep WHAT I WOULD EAT. Some fish for sport some fish for table fare. I do both. If I have fish in the freezer I dont keep fish. IF I dont guess what. Call Hillary call Obama call McCain, Hell call your moma I dont care I am going to keep it and eat it. If I want it. Its legal and it wont be wasted. And guess what TP&W will stock some more for me to catch next time woot





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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Sixman] #2183256 04/17/08 09:06 PM
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Son,I am 62 years old,I am willing to bet i have turned loose more fish over 20 lb's than you have ever caught,That's a promise,


scaredI will take that bet. banana And I am half your age. Hhahahaha too funny. Its funny how when you post most cant catch 20 lbers or more on a consistant basis the attacks start. The ones attacking are usually the ones that say I was catching and releasing catfish that big before your parents were born hahahaha. Or I was catching fish that big while you were still in diapers sh****** green. Come on LMAO did I say Sixman you cant catch fish over 20 lbs. But since I said most cannot your conciense tells you I am talking about you. I know how the memory fades as you get older. Make no mistake you may very well have released more fish then I have caught. But I doubt it seriously stir. So prove me wrong



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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Catfishd] #2183320 04/17/08 09:30 PM
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I'm right at that age myself, and have seen times where it was the norm to eat what you caught, and we had plenty of fish back then.

It may be true that there are more people fishing now days, but the limits are reasonable, and if you are conservation minded then that's a plus for our fisheries, but the law says you can keep them.

I don't, but that's just me, and I don't specifically target big fish so I hardly have to worry about it because it doesn't happen often.

I remember back when I used to fish bass clubs in the early seventies and we used to have an annual fish fry that we used the proceeds to build up our treasury.

We killed a ton of bass back in the day before catch and release caught on.

Sure wouldn't want to be seen at the cleaning station cleaning a bass now days!

Only reason I wouldn't, is I'm too old to go a few rounds with some wise guy who will surely make some smart arse comment about me cleaning a bass.


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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Jimbo] #2183347 04/17/08 09:38 PM
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I locked, but then decided to unlock this thread, as long as it doesn't get any further out of hand.


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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Tritonman] #2183423 04/17/08 10:00 PM
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Please dont lock I want Sixman to prove his point then you can lock it. How about it Sixman show us some pics.


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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Tritonman] #2183428 04/17/08 10:01 PM
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stir I do both does that make sense??? popcorn
when on trips anything over 20 goes back after pics.... I have buddies that run jugs and I go with them....if I tried to make them throw the big ones back I would be fish bait.... stir
I was told by a guide on Tawokani that he thought that we need to take some of the big ones and leave some of them.....I think you guys are right..... stir I like to see the passion of catfishing shared with each other .....keep the opions coming....just try to support your opion with passion and not hatred towards your fishing peers..... cheers


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Re: Throw the big ones back, fishing study suggests [Re: Brother Terry] #2183463 04/17/08 10:08 PM
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If your fishing Tawakoni all it takes to catch fish over 20lbs is a rod, reel, line and some bait on a hook. That Lake is an awesome catfish lake. I know guys that have caught 20 over 20lbs in one day with pics to back it up. I would not brag about catching catfish over 20lbs on Tawakoni because anyone can do that. Putting out jug lines and trot lines is nothing to brag about either not that there is anything wrong with it.

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This thread is not out of hand. It reports a study about how fish respond to fishing pressure. There are difference in opinions. To stifle, or even think of doing so, discussion because of that is ridiculous.

Albert, I have no idea what your problems are, or how you developed your poor outlook on life. I am extremely happy I live 350 miles from Post so I don't have to deal with you daily. If you respond to others as you do here, I feel sorry for you and them.

Danny, I don't know what put the chip on your shoulder, but you need to get it off and relax. It doesn't impress anyone.

In reading your post, its obvious you are a good sportsman. No one said anything is wrong with keeping a few to eat and enjoy, and releasing the number you have is impressive.

It sounds to me like you are a good fisherman, but you didn't invent catfishing. Many of us have been after them far longer than you. Again, I was impressed with your statements about the catch and release. That's exactly what this study was about. Letting many of the larger ones go keeps the gene pool for large fish intact.

Ray

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Harold your fairly new here. If you have been around a couple of years on this forum you would know why some of us seem like we have a chip on our shoulder. I dont pretend or portray as if I invented catfishing. But everytime one of these discussions come up someone makes some arse hat statement about keeping a big fish. If everyone kept every big fish they caught then yes I could see a problem with that. But we dont. Many if not all on TFF are very conservative when it comes to our fishing resources. But if we keep a big fish god forbid we are depleting the gene pool. IF I come across as harsh its cause I have a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to this discussion.


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Then get a toothbrush. Just joking.

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I guide on Eagle Mountain just know guides on that lake that are my friends.... I am not bragging about anything....but I do have friends that catch big fish.... stir...My good friend Ernie caught the lake record two weeks ago....42.15 ...and then there are my friends that fish the NTTC they wack the big ones...and not mention my new buddies on the Centeral Texas tourney trail...and oh yea ..My friend Andrew that holds the record on Grapevine Lake ..and then there is my friends BigMick and Steve who Guarrentee 20 pounders on there winter trips or your trip is free..... noidea that might be bragging there but those are just guys I know ..........I guess I can say I have been around some big fish..............Oh yeah I consider Caney Cat and Danny my friends also..... stir.. I forgot to hit the reply tab this post is a reply to the guy that said I was bragging about catching 20 pounders on Tawakoni....I really dont feel like I was bragging about catching big fish I was stating that I ...as a guide have a policy on trips that we throw back fish over 20 and fishing jugs with some buddies we keep them....

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