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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: bassaholic022]
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01/07/08 01:30 PM
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2-stroke
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talk about luck - google found a bunch of '77 15' wrangler photos.
rated for 150...guess it would be woefully underpowered with 70?
not sure it would fit between my trailer wheels anyway.
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: bassaholic022]
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01/07/08 08:18 PM
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BigL
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The 15 foot Wrangler was rated for a 120, hence the name HP120 The larger model, the HP 150 was rated for a 150. both hulls were/are great! I had the shorter one and loved it! Good luck with the project.
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: BigL]
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01/08/08 12:24 AM
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bassaholic022
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There are no markings on the boat to state HP anything.
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: bassman1]
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01/08/08 02:52 AM
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PGR Mike
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I am a do-it-yourselfer. I am currently rebuilding my engine. How difficult a project is this? Also how do seperate the top from the bottom? I would seriously consider rethanking the job. If you are unfamiliar with how to remove the cap, you are in for the shock of your life. I will give you a starter for reference: Have a shop large enough to hold all sections of boat Derig the boat Remove the motor Remove the bump rail Have chisel and hammer(To seperate top cap from transom) Have large Vaccum(To remove the stringers)and any other wood Since your this far go ahead and replace transom, again(Composite) Have someone that knows how to lay glass(If you can't) Last: The best of luck to you. I have done it and it is a major job... MAKE SURE THE FLOORING GOES BACK IN AT THE SAME HEIGHT OR YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THE CAP BACK ON THE BOAT... Not to mention a complete set of tools like a sawzall, die grinders, cut off wheels, and pry bars. That doesn't include all the sockets, wrenches, and electrical connectors it is going to take. Good luck!
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: PGR Mike]
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01/08/08 02:53 AM
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PGR Mike
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Look in the trading section. RythmDaddy has a free boat he's trying to get rid of.
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: bassman1]
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01/08/08 03:31 PM
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BassCat1971
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How about contacting Skeeters Customer Service and seeing if they can give you some pointers on remodifying the flooring.
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: PGR Mike]
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01/08/08 09:40 PM
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bassaholic022
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Do we really want to go there???? 
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: bassaholic022]
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01/08/08 11:31 PM
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Bass Art
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Bassaholic, if you're long on time and short on $$$$$, go for it. I've done it twice. It's quite a bit of work, but you can do things more effectively than when it was built, if you do your homework. Your boat had wood stringers, floor and transom when it was built, and they will work fine again. If you are carefull to get everything sealed well, it will last for years. The last boat I redid is still going strong today-I redid it in 1995.
A couple of tips, besides the usual stuff like measure twice and cut once. Fiberglass resin will absorb water, which is bad, so it must be coated with something. Gelcoat is the logical answer. It doesn't have to be pretty, just complete. That is why you find gelcoat in every nook and cranny of a bassboat. Second, when you lay the glass over the new stringers, floor, transom, etc., use a hard roller to push the excess resin into little pools where you can remove it. This will reduce your resin to cloth ratio, which will make the end product much stronger. It is labor intensive, but the results will justify the effort. It is why boats like Bullet and Allison weigh so much less than other brands and yet they don't give up much strength. Champion used to do this, too. That is why their boats from the 80's were pretty light, and ran pretty fast, too.
Good luck with it.
Artie ________________________________ Dad took me fishing when I was 10, and I've been pretty much hooked since. He went to be with God on August 14, 2012. I miss you, Dad.
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: PGR Mike]
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01/09/08 05:01 PM
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bassman1
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I am a do-it-yourselfer. I am currently rebuilding my engine. How difficult a project is this? Also how do seperate the top from the bottom? I would seriously consider rethanking the job. If you are unfamiliar with how to remove the cap, you are in for the shock of your life. I will give you a starter for reference: Have a shop large enough to hold all sections of boat Derig the boat Remove the motor Remove the bump rail Have chisel and hammer(To seperate top cap from transom) Have large Vaccum(To remove the stringers)and any other wood Since your this far go ahead and replace transom, again(Composite) Have someone that knows how to lay glass(If you can't) Last: The best of luck to you. I have done it and it is a major job... MAKE SURE THE FLOORING GOES BACK IN AT THE SAME HEIGHT OR YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THE CAP BACK ON THE BOAT... Not to mention a complete set of tools like a sawzall, die grinders, cut off wheels, and pry bars. That doesn't include all the sockets, wrenches, and electrical connectors it is going to take. Good luck! Can't believe I forgot those...
Roll Tide!
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: bassman1]
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01/11/08 01:34 AM
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Big Red 12
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bassaholic022, good luck on whatever you decide. That is more than I could handle. Good luck on what you decide. Keep us informed.
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: Big Red 12]
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01/11/08 01:37 AM
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bassaholic022
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I have decided to trash the boat. Now I just need to know where to take it. Trailer does not go with it. I have it for sale in the trading forum.
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Re: glass vs wood
[Re: Bass Art]
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01/11/08 01:46 AM
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spanky's
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Bassaholic, if you're long on time and short on $$$$$, go for it. I've done it twice. It's quite a bit of work, but you can do things more effectively than when it was built, if you do your homework. Your boat had wood stringers, floor and transom when it was built, and they will work fine again. If you are carefull to get everything sealed well, it will last for years. The last boat I redid is still going strong today-I redid it in 1995.
A couple of tips, besides the usual stuff like measure twice and cut once. Fiberglass resin will absorb water, which is bad, so it must be coated with something. Gelcoat is the logical answer. It doesn't have to be pretty, just complete. That is why you find gelcoat in every nook and cranny of a bassboat. Second, when you lay the glass over the new stringers, floor, transom, etc., use a hard roller to push the excess resin into little pools where you can remove it. This will reduce your resin to cloth ratio, which will make the end product much stronger. It is labor intensive, but the results will justify the effort. It is why boats like Bullet and Allison weigh so much less than other brands and yet they don't give up much strength. Champion used to do this, too. That is why their boats from the 80's were pretty light, and ran pretty fast, too.
Good luck with it. I know your trying to help...But resin wont absorb water if is cured and mixed right..
Last edited by spanky's; 01/11/08 02:02 AM.
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