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Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/19/07 02:24 AM
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ksutton
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I have been seeing a lot of posts about rigging this way and rigging that way and was just wondering how everyone is doing on different rigs. For instance, this past weekend I used one hair rig with Red Demon boilies, one hair rig with boiled deer corn flavored with honey and one Gama Octopus Circle (or at times a Mutu Light Circle) hook with plain, unflavored, straight from the can sweet corn. All rigs were of the Carolina type with 1/4 ounce barrel weights until the wind picked up. I then changed over to 3/4 ounce barrel weights. All three had the same main line, plain barrel type swivels and 30lb. Power Pro leaders. Boilie rig: 0 fish Deer corn: 1 carp Sweet corn: 6 carp, 1 huge buff (seen but missed), 3 turtles. I also had 3 other carp break me off under the dock. That seems to be about the norm. I would say at least 90% of my carp come on 2 or 3 kernels of sweet corn threaded straight on the hook. The only reason I don't fish all 3 rods with sweet corn is I'm lazy. I can't keep up with the bites.  Not only that but the 3 biggest carp I have ever caught: 30.1 at ATC, 30+ at Tawak and 26.8 at Tawak all came on plain, unflavored, straight from the can sweet corn. Just wondering how everyone else does with the "high tech rigs" versus sweet corn threaded on a circle hook. Kevin
Last edited by ksutton; 09/19/07 02:25 AM.
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/19/07 02:46 AM
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Sweet Corn will almost ALWAYS outfish boilies or other hard baits like deer corn in numbers of fish. Almost everyone will agree with me.
But, that has nothing at all to do with the rig.
Sweet Corn is simply a much more "immediate" bait. It will usually catch more fish, and it will catch fish more often.
But, boilies, deer corn, and other "hard baits" will usually catch the biggest fish of the session, and will usually catch bigger fish in general.
That's one advantage, as is the fact you can leave them in the water for 24+ hours, you don't have to rebait after every fish, bluegill and catfish can't steal your bait, etc, etc.
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
[Re: Starless]
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09/19/07 02:48 AM
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Texasenglishman
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Justin - don't forget the fake corn - works good if it's been in the glug in a jug.
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/19/07 03:34 AM
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very intresting.....ima gonna try that thursday....got skunked tonight....???? it happens lol
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/19/07 09:52 AM
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Kevin, there's times when sweet corn won't get bit. Last August on Lake Athens was one of those times. Tiger nuts only for me.
Also, there's times when the right method mix will put 3 to 1 on the bank over plain sweet corn on the hook.
I've even seen straight sweet corn and method feeders/flavored sweet corn go untouched while dough baits catch fish. I've seen one flavor of dough bait catch over another flavor dough bait at the same time. You've just got to figure it out.
I encourage you to keep an open mind about these carp. They're not always so easy yet trying other things will often put fish on the bank.
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/19/07 10:29 AM
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I catch way more on hair rigged maize (if the hair is the right lenght).
But The 18mm BCT Pineapple boilies have caught less but bigger fish. Have you pre-baited with the boilies? Most boilies aren't instant baits.
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/19/07 11:19 AM
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i catch alot with arange cube on a hair and maize the same way but when im at the lake i normally use my method with maize as a hook bait
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/20/07 02:59 AM
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Brewboy - I always keep an open mind no matter what I am fishing for. That's why I usually have all 3 rods baited differently. So far the doughbait has not worked at my slip, at least what I tried. The method seemed to work, on smaller fish, but I don't like using it. Too messy!  Buffmaster - I usually throw out 15-20 boilies, as well as 4-5 pounds of range cubes, each day I go down to the marina, whether I actually fish or not. I leave a bucket at my slip all weekend with my chum stuff in it so all I have to do is remove the lid and throw. I only chum sweet corn, creamed corn and/or boiled maize when I am actually going to fish for carp. I am trying to 'train' the carp at my slip to bite boilies. I have been throwing 40-50 boilies in the water around 3 weekends a month since June of 2006. That's about 150 boilies a month in the water with no hook, a total of around 2,250 boilies. (Expensive habit.) So far I only average about 1 run a day on boilies. Even then they are smaller, 12-16 pound, fish. I have only caught one 20+ pound fish on boilies and that came in April of this year. (21.8 and I posted a picture of it. And it wasn't on a 'true' boilie. It came on a K1 Pineapple Ice Cream Popup which I had not, for obvious reasons, chummed with.) So far, the big fish bite the sweet corn. Kevin
Last edited by ksutton; 09/20/07 03:09 AM.
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/20/07 10:46 AM
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Golden Ghost
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What I did was chum 100 boilies twice a day the first day... 75 boilies (and a few handfulls in the middle of the day) twice a day the second day.... 75 boilies in the AM and fished the an hour later... result's? two buffs from 12 to 14lbs the third day of pre-baiting and one 14lb buff the next.... Hope this helps!  BuffMaster D
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
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09/20/07 12:07 PM
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What I did was chum 100 boilies twice a day the first day... 75 boilies (and a few handfulls in the middle of the day) twice a day the second day.... 75 boilies in the AM and fished the an hour later... result's? two buffs from 12 to 14lbs the third day of pre-baiting and one 14lb buff the next.... How did that compare to days when you did not pre-bait?
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Re: Catch rates on different rigs.
[Re: Smile-n-Nod]
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09/20/07 04:39 PM
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I have not, not pre-baited with boilies.....
Just maize.
BMD
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