Fly,

I refer to the bogus information as, "JUNK AND BIAS SCIENCE"!
One of the major PROBLEMS with current scientific research as
it relates to ichthyology is that most published research is peer
reviewed ONLY within a certain fisheries society. I think
that USA-1 will concur with me, that most published research is
peer reviewed within a narrow range of scientific disicplines.
This opens the door wide open to personal agendas and bias, especially as it relates to public issues. Most peer reviewed
research is geared to towards federal grants. Research that is privately funded must focus on solutions to very real issues or problems.

One of my favorite professors made a statement that has proven
to be VERY TRUE, and this is what he said, " Within the box lies
the problem or issue, you will begin to find answers to the problem within the box by daring to venture outside the box for
the solution". As scientists in the private sector, we are naturally inclined to think, "outside the box".

Fly, Do you have specific questions regarding Crappie or catfish?
Each species is very different in both physiology and behavior.

Is it online? I would like to look it up and give it a go if possible.

Lane,
Oh my yes...a whoooole list of them. Most specifically to start
Effects of the Sun angles, Moon phase, water temps, oxygen levels and food sources on crappie, catfish and sandbass in relation to the beginning of their respective spawn periods.
Where would one find disertations like published doctoral work. I can translate.
Thanks

Dayne/Fly,

Some of the best research or information can be found in the
libraries of universities that are known for their biology programs etc. There is a significant amount of research that was
published pre internet. I compare the research from papers published back in the 70's to current research. There are also
some good books that have a wealth of infomation. One such book
was written by Doug Hannon, "Big Bass Magic". His educational background is in psychology, and he used this to study the behavior of big bass. I also review a fair amount research from other countries,especially the asian countries. You will find alot of useful information by spending time in the libraries of universities. At least that is my recommendation.

Thanks Goddess Lane. I knew Mr. Hannon was a wee bit smarter than a redneck bass fisherman from Florida. Now I know why. I'll be looking for that book. Thank you very much.
I can understand the junk and bias science, not being educated, except reading the Bass magazines for years that many things they write about changed over the years. Of course they try to sell magazines. I think they have gotten better.
I think Gene Gilliland of B.A.S.S. Times is a credible source from what I have read. It's very interesting and I'm thankin' ya for sharing your knowledge. I look forward to reading more on the subject of my obsession, Miss Bucketmouth.
You gotta blog? 'cause this FISHING forum could use some more education.

USA ! and Lane:

I have a question for you on red fish in Fresh water lakes.
What wouls be the lower temp for them and the upper range. Trading house and Fairfield support them all year I understand because they are warm water power plant lakes. I wonder if Granbury which is a salty lake and has a power plant ,but it doesn't run as much as Fairfield
It would be nice if Granbury could support the red fish and maybe restore it as a lake that can again be productive as it was before the Golden Algae destroyed the lake.
Would like to have your opinions and some knowledge before I contact the Parks and Wildlife .

This is a GREAT Post and Thanks to All for the input!!! I'm in school once again

eddie,

Red drum can be tolerate a wide range of salinity levels, and
water temperatures. The major determining factors would be
structure and habitat along with availability of forage. Golden
algae blooms are not only related to water temps, but to PH.
The golden algae favors alkaline conditions. You would have to
call TPW to find out if the lake could support red drum. The previous golden algae blooms would definately be a significant
factor in any stocking decisions.

Hank, I am issuing an official PETA alert on Mr. Gilliland.
You can read it at, www.fishinghurts.com/FAQ.asp under the
subtitle, "Whats wrong with catch and release fishing?"
His 1997 PUBLISHED research assessed a 43% mortality rate during a summer tournament. He did not factor in mortality associated
with the confinement of holding pens and water temperatures during the confinement period. Mortality rates can be significantly higher when fish are placed in holding pens or net
hoops during in the summer. PETA spends alot of time looking
for research to support their agenda that targets children and
single parent families. With fishing on the decline, it is dangerous to have flawed research circulating in the public domain.

This the perfect use for the forum and should be used more often! Thanks to Lane and USA-1 for some well placed answers and the other guys for some seriously great questions.

ditto!!! by far, this has been lacking in the TFF.

Lane and USA-1 are top notch!!! have met both in person.

I ,too, have learned somethings from this very informative post.

i'm with Lane on this one. Amazing what the non-almighty dollar makes people do or write. Thank you!

awesome post, great questions. Very interesting stuff, makes me feel all pondbossy

This is all very interesting to me. Thanks. Lane, what is the title of the published article by Gilliland and in which journal was it published? I would like to read it to understand more.

Lane:
Thank You for the redfish information. Will explore this further when I get back from Lake Erie,Yellow perch trip and a couple of days of Red River Arkansas trout fishing.
Again T%hank You for the encouraging information.

Ram99, The study was published in the SDAF (Southern Division
American Fisheries Society) in 1997. While the entire study
is not available online, I will provide you links to the abstracts, etc. www.sdafs.org/tcafs/meetings/96meet/gillilan.htm

The fish were held in holding pens that were attatched to docks
in a marina. Anglers have always been told NOT to fill their livewells near marinas, and for good reason. So why would you
hold fish in pens during the summer in contaminated warm water?
Gilliland is a BIG PROMOTER of pressurized oxygen. The company
that he actively promotes is Oxy-Edge. Remember One Eye, Oxy Dave? His real name is David Kinser. Public fisheries biologists
receive the bulk of their salary from the 10% excise tax collected from the sale of terminal tackle, boat fuel, etc. So
why are a FEW of these PUBLIC biologists promoting CERTAIN companies and their products?????? We HAVE NEVER and WOULD NEVER
ask or even encourage a public fisheries managers to PROMOTE our
products to the public. The lowest documented mortality rates
occured in the mid to late 80s, they did not have 02 bottles back
then, but they did have ICE, aeration, etc. Bottomline, is that
SOME biologists are on take and this needs to stop! Conducting
studies to show higher than normal mortality rates, in order to
promote a particular product, or to increase tournament fees is
flat out FRAUD. Independent studies are GREAT, but they must be
independent. Personally, I think that we need to focus public
resources on issues like habitat improvement, research on fish
diseases like the VHS,etc.

Here is another link that should be of interest.
www.sdafs.org/reservoir/meeting/feb03min.htm
Scroll down to tournament mortality, you will NOTE that some scientists are OPPOSED to the continued use of holding pens and
nets, due to SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that they can increase mortality
rates. Add me to that list!