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Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: beartrap] #15390435 05/02/25 01:23 PM
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More accurately, he failed the poly 4 times. Then admitted to discussing locations with a friend of his from FL, then passed the 5th poly based on that information being divulged.

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Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: wanta10lbbass] #15390440 05/02/25 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wanta10lbbass
More accurately, he failed the poly 4 times. Then admitted to discussing locations with a friend of his from FL, then passed the 5th poly based on that information being divulged.

A poly takes an hour and a half. His was only slightly longer. How do you get 4 failed polyies?
According to Matt, Zona started the rumor on 4 failed poly tests and Matt is questioning how Zona got that info. BASS has withheld the poly from everyone, including Matt.

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Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: outfishdya] #15390449 05/02/25 01:31 PM
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[quote=outfishdya]Where there's smoke there's fire.... BASS has something wrong with their poly process


Or maybe he just didn't pass??? He failed more than once!

Where did you get this information?
He said he passed, BASS did not DQ him for failing it.
Do you have a source?[/q

Can u please explain the difference between failing and not passing????? U lost me there!
If he passed why would he of been DQ'ed? and why would of any of this be an issue?

If you would listen to the slick interview, instead of repeating half truths and rumors, you can hear straight out of Matt's mouth.


LOL! I I have listened bud! I have also talked to Matt! So settle down

Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: outfishdya] #15390460 05/02/25 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by outfishdya
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More accurately, he failed the poly 4 times. Then admitted to discussing locations with a friend of his from FL, then passed the 5th poly based on that information being divulged.

A poly takes an hour and a half. His was only slightly longer. How do you get 4 failed polyies?
According to Matt, Zona started the rumor on 4 failed poly tests and Matt is questioning how Zona got that info. BASS has withheld the poly from everyone, including Matt.


Zona started a rumor? I think he is more calculated and way smarter than saying something false about the situation. Did u hear Matt say he was going to take legal action bc Zona revealed that and he thinks that is his personal info? Why would he take legal action for that if it was false information? That would be a defamation case not a personal info case.

Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: beartrap] #15390462 05/02/25 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by beartrap


matt has a facebook page,you need to go there and ask him yourself....am sure he welcomes comments from kids and juveniles...



Oh I see. I thought you two were “boys”, since you keep defending him and speaking about that which you don’t really know anything about.



Do you understand what the “NO INFORMATION” part means in the new rule?

For the record, I initially defended Scott Martin with what he claimed happened. Then the actual BASS rule was posted and there is no way to defend him after that; but I can read and understand how to comprehend certain things, such as the BassChamps sunglasses contest. Oh and I can understand how to order my fishing license online and not get DQ’d from a tournament, things that you seem to find quite challenging & difficult.

Are you really Matt Herrin?

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Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: grout-scout] #15390480 05/02/25 01:46 PM
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matt has a facebook page,you need to go there and ask him yourself....am sure he welcomes comments from kids and juveniles...



Oh I see. I thought you two were “boys”, since you keep defending him and speaking about that which you don’t really know anything about.



Do you understand what the “NO INFORMATION” part means in the new rule?

For the record, I initially defended Scott Martin with what he claimed happened. Then the actual BASS rule was posted and there is no way to defend him after that; but I can read and understand how to comprehend certain things, such as the BassChamps sunglasses contest. Oh and I can understand how to order my fishing license online and not get DQ’d from a tournament, things that you seem to find quite challenging & difficult.

Are you really Matt Herrin?


go watch both podcasts again.....he clearly explained he did not solicit information nor did he act on anything he heard....

Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: HDVS] #15390524 05/02/25 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by HDVS
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More accurately, he failed the poly 4 times. Then admitted to discussing locations with a friend of his from FL, then passed the 5th poly based on that information being divulged.

A poly takes an hour and a half. His was only slightly longer. How do you get 4 failed polyies?
According to Matt, Zona started the rumor on 4 failed poly tests and Matt is questioning how Zona got that info. BASS has withheld the poly from everyone, including Matt.


Zona started a rumor? I think he is more calculated and way smarter than saying something false about the situation. Did u hear Matt say he was going to take legal action bc Zona revealed that and he thinks that is his personal info? Why would he take legal action for that if it was false information? That would be a defamation case not a personal info case.


I have no dog in this fight, I am calm and enjoying my day. This thread is about the interview and I am repeating what has been said in these interviews.
They (Matt and Slick) implied that Zona stated he failed 4 times. I hear your point, but the way they implied it was that it was not factual information, therefore a rumor.(my words)

Since you know Matt. and have talked to him, Is he lying?


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Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: beartrap] #15390525 05/02/25 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by beartrap
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matt has a facebook page,you need to go there and ask him yourself....am sure he welcomes comments from kids and juveniles...



Oh I see. I thought you two were “boys”, since you keep defending him and speaking about that which you don’t really know anything about.



Do you understand what the “NO INFORMATION” part means in the new rule?

For the record, I initially defended Scott Martin with what he claimed happened. Then the actual BASS rule was posted and there is no way to defend him after that; but I can read and understand how to comprehend certain things, such as the BassChamps sunglasses contest. Oh and I can understand how to order my fishing license online and not get DQ’d from a tournament, things that you seem to find quite challenging & difficult.

Are you really Matt Herrin?


go watch both podcasts again.....he clearly explained he did not solicit information nor did he act on anything he heard....

lol none of that matters… we have went back and forth for a few weeks and you can’t get the basic concepts thru your head..

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I am connecting the dots between grandbassslayer and HDVS....

anyone ever see these 2 in the same room?


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Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: beartrap] #15390546 05/02/25 02:37 PM
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the basic concept and intent of the no information rule is that you don't solicit information from other fishermen....no one can avoid people volunteering information in a conversation.....in Matt's situation,he said he did not ask for information nor did he act on what was said to him....

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Originally Posted by beartrap
the basic concept and intent of the no information rule is that you don't solicit information from other fishermen....no one can avoid people volunteering information in a conversation.....in Matt's situation,he said he did not ask for information nor did he act on what was said to him....

For the thousandth time that has nothing to do with the actual rule.


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Originally Posted by Chris B
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the basic concept and intent of the no information rule is that you don't solicit information from other fishermen....no one can avoid people volunteering information in a conversation.....in Matt's situation,he said he did not ask for information nor did he act on what was said to him....

For the thousandth time that has nothing to do with the actual rule.


O.K. does your interpetation mean that if an elite series fisherman hears anything regarding fishing in an upcoming tournament lake that he is disqualified from fishing the tournament?
does this mean every pro fisherman has to wear ear plugs for 30 days prior to a tournament?
please explain what your interpetation of the rule is....

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Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: outfishdya] #15390632 05/02/25 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by outfishdya
I am connecting the dots between grandbassslayer and HDVS....

anyone ever see these 2 in the same room?

No because I’ve never met him..😆🤦🏼

Re: Matt Herren pod cast with Iconelli and slick johnson [Re: outfishdya] #15390636 05/02/25 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by outfishdya
I am connecting the dots between grandbassslayer and HDVS....

anyone ever see these 2 in the same room?


You should connect the dots that he failed a poly! Plain simple and the result is a dq! Not kicked out of BASS. That was 100% his choice to leave.
Yes I talked to him right after at the NPFL. I feel bad for Matt but I do not agree with his arguments on this. I have known him for 25 years but I hate the way he reacted to this and where its going now! I have and do fish at the national level and in my opinion. There is NO GRAY area!
The deal is if Matt calls the tournament director and says in a conversation something was said but I am not going to use it or act on it and doesn't. His conscience woulda been cleared and he would have passed like he did in the end after he admitted to the second conversation.
Just so u know granbassslayer and I do not normally agree on much on here but I guess common sense on this is shared!

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